Is the problem radiated emissions or conducted emissions.... anyone know?

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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:19 PM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
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> https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/video_didnt_kill_the_radio_star_but_electric_cars_might/41298
> Video didn't kill the radio star… but electric cars might
> 08 November 2018  
> 
> Music cartridges didn’t see it off. Neither did cassettes, nor CDs. But AM
> radio in cars might just have met its nemesis in the future of road
> transport.
> 
> It seems it’s about to be killed off by electric-powered motors, according
> to the Wall Street Journal: what drives Teslas at speeds that match many
> petrol-driven cars, and the Chevy Bolt well over 200 miles on a single
> charge, also turns AM reception on the move into unlistenable static.
> 
> The result is that electric car makers are starting to leave out the
> analogue option entirely.
> 
> A General Motors spokeswoman said the manufacturer was aware of the problem
> with the Bolt and had “taken steps”, but didn’t elaborate.
> 
> Experts say the problem is caused because electric vehicles produce
> electromagnetic frequencies on the same wavelength as AM signals – that
> produces a nasty buzzing and cause the radio signal to fade in and out.
> 
> “You get two signals that literally collide into each other and cancel each
> other out before the antenna even receives the signal,” Brian McKay, head of
> engine innovation and technology at the North American operations of
> Continental, told the Journal.
> 
> And as electric motors are designed to be ever more powerful, so the
> interference worsens. And rather than try and solve the problem, many car
> makers have decided to simply drop AM radios from their electric vehicles.
> 
> Honda no longer offers them on its hybrid electric Acura NSX sports car. And
> Tesla has now removed AM radios from all its current models. Instead,
> drivers have to settle for an internet-based radio service, plus FM radio,
> optional HD radio, and Bluetooth to smartphones for streaming music or radio
> stations digitally.
> 
> It’s another blow for AM stations, many of which have already been hit by
> steadily declining ad revenue.
> 
> But, while the number might be up for AM in cars of the future, that doesn’t
> mean radio in other forms has lost its appeal, even in cars.
> 
> According to Nielsen, more Americans still tune into AM/FM radio than any
> other platform, and 93% of US adults listen to radio every week — “more than
> those watching television or using a smartphone, TV connected device, tablet
> or PC”, the audience researchers say.
> 
> Sourced from Wall Street Journal, Radio World; additional content by WARC
> staff
> [© warc.com]
> ...
> https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/digital-radio
> digital-radio
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> [dated]
> Why Electric Cars Are Ditching AM Radio - Motherboard
> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/.../why-electric-cars-are-ditching-am-radio
> Feb 5, 2016 - BMW i3 and Tesla Model X don't offer terrestrial AM radio
> because of ... the new Tesla Model X also dropped terrestrial AM radio from
> its ...
> 
> Big Name Car Owners Want Their AM Radio Back | Interference ...
> https://interferencetechnology.com/big-name-car-owners-want-their-am-radio-back/
> Feb 10, 2016 - Meanwhile, the new Tesla Model X also dropped terrestrial AM
> radio from its infotainment dashboard and instead provides most AM stations
> ...
> 
> The Future of AM Radio | Electronic Design
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/blog/future-am-radio
> Feb 17, 2016 - Can you believe AM radio is still around? Seems so retro, but
> it is still useful. Nevertheless, AM radio has been in decline for years,
> with many ...
> 
> Will AM And FM Radio Really Be Eliminated On New Cars? - 
> https://jalopnik.com/will-am-and-fm-radio-really-be-eliminated-on-new-cars-4538490...
> Mar 15, 2013 - I'd love to know who the panelists were that made these
> claims, and who these car companies are that will supposedly be dropping
> radio.
> 
> BMW i3 electric car quirk: no AM radio offered, but why? (update)
> https://www.greencarreports.com › News › Electric Cars
> Sep 29, 2017 - The BMW i3 electric car is a tour de force of advanced
> engineering--and it was the most energy-efficient car sold in the U.S. in
> 2014 and 2015.
> 
> BMW Owners Want Their AM Radio Back - Radio Ink
> https://radioink.com › News › Headlines
> Feb 8, 2016 - The reason BMW dropped AM was interference from the electric
> drivetrain of the car blocking out the AM signal, making it fuzzy and
> choppy.
> 
> BMW and Tesla have ditched AM radio but trying to get it back
> https://www.bmwblog.com/.../bmw-and-tesla-have-ditched-am-radio-but-trying-to-get...
> Feb 7, 2016 - BMW was the first automobile company to ditch AM radio ... The
> reason for the drop of one of America's oldest broadcasting mediums is that
> the ...
> 
> Reasons Your Car Radio Reception Sucks - Lifewire
> https://www.lifewire.com › How To › Car Tech › Guides & Tutorials
> Sep 8, 2018 - Nobody likes bad car radio reception. ... new car radio better
> reception ... with interference, flutter uncontrollably, or even drop out
> altogether.
> 
> AM Radio Stations make a "whir" sound as the car accellerates and ...
> https://forums.tesla.com/.../am-radio-stations-make-whir-sound-car-accellerates-and-sl...
> 18 posts - ?13 authors
> AM Radio Stations make a "whir" sound as the car accellerates and slows....
> how ... That paint spot would have to be specially removed for any grounding
> to the ...
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=AM+radios+dropped+cars
> search  AM radios dropped cars
> ...
> https://www.google.com/search?q=digital+am+radio
> search  digital am radio
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