(lets see if the evdl nabble archive will allow this post to show up, or be blocked)
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-EVLN-tp4693232p4693233.htmlhttp://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-EVLN-tp4693232p4693233.html ] Willie sez >Bruce, I believe, -comes from the experience of NEVER being able to charge as fast as desired. -I see that as mostly an insufficient battery size problem. Of course, in "Bruce's day", 50 mile ranges were very rare ...< % -using lee's words: It's not quite that ... My desire is not just fast, but slow, and quick as well. I see the need of today's EV driver to have the capability to be able to charge at any of the three charging levels. Same as it crucial for a tool kit/belt/box to have several tools (not just the one L1-charging tool). How often you use a charging level, is less as important as always having the ability to charge at any level. Plus, that flexible charging ability helps with EV-resale value. -While I have a long-long past of EV experiences, when I write IMO, it is with today's EV driver in mind. I would not be of much use as an EVangel if I were stuck-in-the-past with old EV tech thinking. EV-noobs might read Willie's words "Bruce's day" as a (snarky, I-drive-a-Tesla) dig that I am behind the curve. For the record, "Bruce's day" is today's production EV. When each EV improvement occurred, I re-adjusted to that new EV-standard. As a good EVangel, I speak with today's EV buyer in mind. btw, I take no-hard-feelings from Willie's words. It is the same thing that occurred way-way back in the posh-elitism days by GM EV1-club members. Their better-than-your-EV attitude did not go away when their EV1s were ripped away from owners to be crushed by GM. The drivers just switched by buying up every RAV4-EV(gen1) they could. No ... its all too easy to let that type of (subconscious) wording slip-out. Most people have no-idea how much I know, how much I've done, or where my EV-support-head is at (as it is just too easy to think that I have old-corroded/rusty EV-conversion thinking, when the best range of a 1990's lead-acid wet-cell pack EV was ~50mi @a steady 55mph). That was then, now is ... now/today. For the record, as each new production EV came available, I used my former press-credentials to test-drive each one of those EVs, at the many EVS-## symposiums (aka EDTA electricdrive.org https://electricdrive.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/43150/pid/43150 ). Also, those press-credentials allowed me to sign-my-life-away, to drive SF-CA utility's (pge.com) production EVs for several days: Nissan Altra, Honda-EVplus, RAV4-EV(gen1), +more. Out my own pocket, I also rented a GM EV1 ($100/day @LAX treehugger.com/cars/ev-rentals-hybrids-for-hire.html ) for a week, to attend the CARB workshop#2 + SCAQMD meeting in Rosemead-CA, where GM made their announcement that they were killing their EV1 program and would just give-away golf-cars to earn CARB credits. No ... I have done many-many EV things that people have no-idea I've done, or they have forgotten about them. But, I've always had today's EV buyer in mind when I speak to the public. "Bruce's day" is today's EV . [ref https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg25837.html ] No one seemed to notice I added a break down of purchase cost to range ratio. The best was Kona EV, but the Tesla-3 w/ long-range option was good too (pay-more= get-more): Hyundai Kona Electric: 258 Miles [415km,US$36.5k+$ ($142/mi)] Chevy Bolt EV: 238 miles [383km,US$36.6k+$ ($154/mi)] Tesla Model 3: 310 Miles [500km,long-range US$49k+ ($158/mi)] Nissan Leaf e +: 226 miles [364km,US$37.5k+$ ($166/mi)] % For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
