That's a lot of churn on my original point. Kia will not do this to you, Tesla will if they feel like it. They get to set the rules, not you. From the buyers perspective which is who I would be in this scenario. A price was negotiated on a car with a certain set of features listed as being part of the purchase. A few days after driving the car home features the buyer thought he had paid for were removed from the car by the manufacturer... Someone will have to explain to me how I will know exactly what I am buying when I buy my used Tesla, which I very well may do some day. Do I need to call Tesla ahead of time and verify every feature I think I am getting on my car? Do I need to get it in writing from them??? Do they even have a process in place that I can access, or do they just get to make decisions with no thought towards the current "owner" of the car?
Damon ________________________________ From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:12 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net>; EVDL Administrator <evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit' Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you aren’t paying for the service too. This doesn’t sound different they just did it after delivery to the dealer. It gave no impression the car had this when he purchased it from the used car dealer. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:54 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > They might as well sneak into his garage in the middle of the night and > steal parts from the car. The only difference between this and what GM did > to their EV-1 lessees is the scale of the confiscation. 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