A silicone diode instead of a schotkey would probably do it, though voltage may 
be a little on the high side if you’re expecting the panel to be very cold when 
the battery is full

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From: Peter VanDerWal via EV
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

Now why didn't I think of that?  
The chargers I've been looking at have MPTT(or at least they claim to), however 
I could just use two panels.

I have a couple dozen panels left over from an abandoned project: 5V @ 240ma, 
they have conformal coating so reducing them to 5 cells instead of 6 would be 
difficult.
However, I could run a couple diodes in series...

June 2, 2020 10:02 AM, "Matt via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> What about no charge control, a solar panel whose Voc is 4.5v (so only 5 
> series cells) and a
> schotkey diode to prevent back flow
> 
> That would have the effect of limiting max voltage to ~4.2v, but at 4v only 
> around 20% of Imp would
> flow (ie charge rate slows right down past 3.6v)
> 
> How much power are you thinking?
> 
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> From: Peter VanDerWal via EV
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:55 AM
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> Cc: e...@vanderwal.us
> Subject: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries
> 
> Somewhat off topic, but I'm hoping someone can help.
> 
> I'm building a solar powered weather station and plan to use 1 or 2 18650 
> cells. There are tons of
> small solar chargers available for these, however they all charge the cells 
> to ~4.2V.
> To maximize life from the LiIon batteries I'd like to keep them between 
> 40-80% charged.
> 
> So what I'm looking for is either a solar module that I can set to only 
> charge the cells to ~3.9V
> or a way to make a 4.2V charger work.
> Since I'm not having any luck finding 3.9V chargers what I've been thinking 
> about is perhaps using
> a schottky diode to drop the 4.2V to around 3.9V. however that would prevent 
> the charger from
> seeing voltage from the battery and it might not start charging. 
> So I'm thinking maybe putting a 100 ohm resistor in parrel with the diode, 
> that would allow the
> charger to see the battery voltage.
> I still have to figure out how much current the microcontrollers, etc. will 
> draw, but it's going to
> be at least 10 mA when idle, with bursts up to several hundred ma when 
> transmitting.
> 
> Does this sound like a reasonable plan? Any better suggestions?
> 
> Thanks, Pete.
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