Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to have a 3.9V zener across the battery?
Unless thay have leakage current when off?

If I'm going to put it across the panel then I'd probably want a 4.3V
zener, and then drop ~0.4V between the panel and the battery?

The result doesn't have to be precisely 3.9V on the battery, just
somewhere in that neighborhood.

(Warning: Technical discussion to follow. May cause drowsiness...)

True zener diodes only exist below about 6 volts. True zeners have a large change in their zener voltage versus current. For example, a 1N5335 3.9v 5-watt zener will measure about:

        5.1v at 1200ma
        4.5v at 600ma
        3.9v at 300ma <-- rated current
        3.5v at 150ma
        3.0v at 50ma
        1.0v at 0.3ma

In other words, it draws a *lot* of current even well below its zener voltage. If connected right across a lithium cell, it would soon discharge it below 1.0v, and murder it.

In contrast, "zeners" above 6v are in fact "avalance" diodes. A different mechanism defines their threshold voltage, and they have a far more stable voltage versus current. For example, a 1N5342 6.8v 5w zener will measure about:

        7.15v at 700ma
        6.95v at 350ma
        6.8v at 175ma <-- rated current
        6.6v at 60ma
        4.9v at 0.01ma

Notice that the voltage changes far less with current, and becomes insignificant (10uA) below 5v.

In between the two (5-6v range), the characteristics gradually transition from one behavior to the other. That's why you have to "test" and pick the best parts for the job.

This means you want to use a higher-voltage "avalanche" diode across the PV panel to limit its max voltage; then knock this down to the desired cell voltage (and block reverse current) with 1 or more series diodes.

Lee Hart
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