Depends on the person. Where I used to work there were several people who had 150+ mile commutes, every day.
In my current job, I used to travel a LOT (pre-covid). I averaged about 3 trips a month that required flying to the customers location. The trip from my house to the Airport is about 85 miles, each way. Granted an EV with ~140 miles range would probably be sufficient (extra range to handle the 3000 feet of uphill climb on the way home, plus winter time range reduction); however, the Bolt with ~240 miles range can charge up (for free) at the airport and has enough range to drive home, and then back to the airport a few days later. July 9, 2020 4:16 AM, "paul dove via EV" <[email protected]> wrote: > I would say that is only because people fictionally think they need a 300+ > mile range. My i-MiEV > goes 40 miles now after 8 years 65 miles new and rarely will it not go where > I need to go. I have a > Tesla now and it’s so much nicer I drive it most of the time. But before > COVID I drive the > Mitsubishi everyday to work. I love that car and while the range cuts it > close sometimes I think > With 100 mile range I would have Zero issues. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 9, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Bill Dube via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> LiFePO4 only has about half the specific energy of metal oxide (like cobalt) >> cells. >> >> Because they are such low impedance (high specific power) you can reduce the >> weight of the cooling >> system, (or perhaps eliminate it entirely) but that in not nearly enough >> weight to make up the >> difference in an EV application. >> >> LiFePO4 is best when you are more interested in high power, or cycle life, >> or perhaps safety, than >> in maximum energy content per kg. >> Cordless tools, starting, start-stop, hybrids, all are great applications. >> EV's, not so much. >> >> Bill D. >> >>> On 7/10/2020 12:26 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >> >> On 9 Jul 2020 at 14:30, Bill Dube via EV wrote: >> >> They altered their focus away from EV batteries and towards other >> markets that made more sense for LiFePO4 technology. >>> Obviously I'm not in any position to advise them, but I wonder if it might >>> be time for A123 to review their focus. >>> >>> I don't know how dependent they are on the US market, but with the US >>> seemingly headed for both short and long term economic contraction, they >>> might do well to look toward western Europe and Southeast Asia for growth. >>> There the market for EVs and their batteries is ramping up quickly. >>> >>> EVs there are (unfortunately IMO) getting larger, with more battery space. >>> Something of a range race is heating up, too. >>> >>> If A123 can solve the energy density problem (I mean in terms of volume, not >>> mass), I suspect that they could also grab some of the warranty and spares >>> market. >>> >>> For example, there are quite a few older 2012-2019 Renault Zoes running >>> round the EU. In most countries save Norway the majority have leased >>> batteries. Renault's contract says they'll service the batteries if they >>> fall below 75% capacity. If A123 could supply cells that would yield the >>> nominal original capacity (22kWh or 42kWh) and be the last service that that >>> battery needed, Renault's bean counters might take notice. >>> >>> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey >>> >>> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my >>> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt >>> >>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been >>> fooled. >>> >>> -- Mark Twain >>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >>> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
