> That's crazy expensive Check your math. its a great deal. About $15 per month for 20 days of work place charging or about 75 cents a day. Spread over 7.5 hours a day, that is about 10 cents an hour. To charge from an L1 charger takes 1.5 kW per hour, so the price is about 6 cents per kWh much below the typical 12 Cents national electric rates.
Bob On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:32 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's crazy expensive, at about $1.30/kwh if you charge for 8 hours > full bore. How about negociating a price more like $30 / month, which is > about 22 days x 8 hours x $0.15 / kwh > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Robert Bruninga" <[email protected]> > Sent: 13-Sep-21 11:25:48 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging a BOLT from 120v > > >Its an easy problem to solve. Fed employess can pay $6 per paypeirod for > >authority to plugin to any 120v federal outlet. > > > >See: https://www.sustainability.gov/pdfs/guidance_fed_workplace_charging.pdf > > > >Bob > > > > > >On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:23 PM Peter Eckhoff via EV <[email protected]> > >wrote: > >> > >> I was upstate NY when the outside temp hit -52F one morning in > >> January, 1966. So this interests me as many used block and oil pan > >> heaters. Some brought their batteries in at night to keep them warm. > >> > >> I feel your son's frustration. I know there is active pack thermal > >> management and power is drawn from the pack when not plugged in. He > >> would have to be plugged in to offset any pack power depletion due to > >> that thermal management. > >> > >> I found this online (ref: > >>https://www.wisconsinpublicservice.com/savings/business/farm-tractor): > >> > >> "A 1000-watt engine heater that runs 10 hours per day (overnight > >> typically) from late November through mid March will use about $90 in > >> electricity. A clock timer can save money on your electric bill by > >> activating the engine block heater two hours before it's normally > >> used, saving over $70 in electricity per year." I saw where some > >> heaters had lesser wattage ratings and some that were higher. > >> > >> I'd ask my co-workers what the power rating of their block heaters > >> are and if they are on timers, etc. A 1000-watt engine heater would > >> draw 8 amps which is the lowest(?) Level 1 charge rate on the Bolt. > >> But a Bolt's electrical needs are constant even in summer. Do his > >> co-workers use timers? > >> > >> I can supply him with a reference graph from Exxon Mobil showing the > >> peaking of Liquid Crude Supply around the year 2040: > >>https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/-/media/Global/Files/outlook-for-energy/2019-Outlook-for-Energy_v4.pdf > >> (Slide #31) > >> > >> The next question is what will his managers do as there will be more > >> EV production and adoption leading up and as we go through the > >> peaking? Can he work an experiment with his managers to measure his > >> draw as a prelude to other EV charging in the future? > >> > >> As a last resort, is there a way for him to negotiate a way to pay for > >> any "excess" electricity used? > >> > >> Please keep us informed on what happens. > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 9:31 AM Robert Bruninga via EV > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > I need to understand the settings for charging a Bolt EV. > >> > > >> > My son's workplace in Alaska says he cannot plugin his Bolt EV to the > >> > dedicated 120v oiutlets provided in every parking spot because EV > >> > charging is not authorized. > >> > > >> > But what about battey heating? When every other employee gets to > >> > maintain a block heater, he shoud be able to maintain his battery > >> > temperature. > >> > > >> > Is there a setting in the Bolt to set battery warming but NOT charging > >> > while plugged into 120v? > >> > > >> > Thanks Bob > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Address messages to [email protected] > >> > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Address messages to [email protected] > >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >_______________________________________________ > >Address messages to [email protected] > >No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
