I also have a 2013, original battery was 10 bars when I bought it in 2019,
done 25K km since then, battery dropped to 7 bars this year. I found another
2013 battery with 10 bars, had dome more kms than mine. So far it's still at
10 bars. Here in NZ 2013 is the worst for battery degradation, almost every
leaf for sale cheap is 2013, but some are still at 11 bars. I don't know how
to tell if it's a lizard though.

-----Original Message-----
From: EV On Behalf Of Ken Olum via EV
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2022 4:47 am
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: Ken Olum <k...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

   From: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>
   Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:12:45 +0000

   How do the "lizard" batteries perform in cold weather?

I haven't paid careful attention to ours, but there was certainly not some
huge problem in the cold.

   Regardless of range, you're saying the lizard battery won't degrade as 
   quickly ?

Yes.  At 95K miles or so, I think our original 2013 battery was down to
7 (maybe 6) bars of battery health out of 12.  We replaced it with a
2015 battery which had 11 bars even though it had 85K miles or so.  7000
miles later, it is still at 11.

   My experience with the OEM battery is roughly 50% range at 25F versus
   70F. 

This is pretty terrible.  When we had cars with lead-acid batteries we saw
this level of temperature sensitivity, but it shouldn't be so much with
lithium.  Was it this bad originally or only after your battery got old?  Is
it often 25F in Seattle?

   If I buy a used lizard that has, say 60 mile range at 70F, what can I 
   expect at 25F ?


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