If you can afford it, I would recommend getting  a Bolt. A new one is still 
less than 30K and as far as battery wear is concerned, they are all new now.  
GM replaced all the battery packs.

Then sell your Leaf to someone who will use it to replace an ICE commuter 
vehicle and upgrade the battery pack. This will put two EVs on the road instead 
of one.  You can even provide them with all the info you have found on 
replacing the pack.

Ed

> On Nov 17, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Jay Summet via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> I have a 2015 leaf, 60k miles, 11 capacity bars (but likely to drop to 10 
> soon).  I drive it relatively economically and get 4-4.8 miles per kwh for a 
> real world range of 80-90 miles still at 35-45mph speeds. (less on freeways 
> of course....)
> 
> I'm in Florida, and almost never see freezing temperatures. (Or temps above 
> 100 like in Arizona....) So not quite as temperate as parts of the pacific 
> northwest, but not horribly bad for battery longevity.
> 
> I think if you got a 2015+ replacement battery with 11 bars it would probably 
> give your Leaf quite a bit more life.
> 
> Jay
> 
>> On 11/17/22 18:41, George Tyler via EV wrote:
>> I also have a 2013, original battery was 10 bars when I bought it in 2019,
>> done 25K km since then, battery dropped to 7 bars this year. I found another
>> 2013 battery with 10 bars, had dome more kms than mine. So far it's still at
>> 10 bars. Here in NZ 2013 is the worst for battery degradation, almost every
>> leaf for sale cheap is 2013, but some are still at 11 bars. I don't know how
>> to tell if it's a lizard though.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EV On Behalf Of Ken Olum via EV
>> Sent: Friday, 18 November 2022 4:47 am
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: Ken Olum <k...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?
>>    From: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>
>>    Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:12:45 +0000
>>    How do the "lizard" batteries perform in cold weather?
>> I haven't paid careful attention to ours, but there was certainly not some
>> huge problem in the cold.
>>    Regardless of range, you're saying the lizard battery won't degrade as
>>    quickly ?
>> Yes.  At 95K miles or so, I think our original 2013 battery was down to
>> 7 (maybe 6) bars of battery health out of 12.  We replaced it with a
>> 2015 battery which had 11 bars even though it had 85K miles or so.  7000
>> miles later, it is still at 11.
>>    My experience with the OEM battery is roughly 50% range at 25F versus
>>    70F.
>> This is pretty terrible.  When we had cars with lead-acid batteries we saw
>> this level of temperature sensitivity, but it shouldn't be so much with
>> lithium.  Was it this bad originally or only after your battery got old?  Is
>> it often 25F in Seattle?
>>    If I buy a used lizard that has, say 60 mile range at 70F, what can I
>>    expect at 25F ?
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