On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 12:15 +0100, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Hi Roberto, > > Am 08.11.2008 um 06:10 schrieb Roberto Allende: > >> Here are my proposals. > >> 1. True international homepage > >> We need to have a multilingual website called worldploneday.org, > >> so that each national team can translate announcements and infos > >> into their national language and refer to it in their national PR. > > when we started the wpd i thought it could be a good idea to have a > > site for wpd, but as the organization moved forward i change my > > mind. There are good reasons to keep the global communication in > > plone.org: > > > > 1. All the effort of the wpd should be in the local events. > > Following this argument, if you need a site, you should create one > > for your country or city, and when you promote the wpd in your > > country, you should use your site. If you need 'global' elements, > > you can add a google map and stuff like this we made already. Doing > > smt like this, every host has the freedom to do what it considers > > necessary and we don't force to have the same content translated to > > all the languages. The people who attended the wpd in my country > > got informed through our user group site, not the global place... > > so it's more important to invest time on the local version rather > > the global one, > > > > 2. Effort and resources. The wpd 2008 page was very simple, and > > still it took me too much time. We should need more people to do a > > global site, hosting and so on. Until we don't have a matre event i > > wouldn't invest resources on it. > > > > 3. Bringing people to plone.org or your local site is good. I like > > the idea of having the global event page few clicks close to the > > download plone button, or even the local one (we used plone cono > > sur page to promote wpd in our region). This is a good way to > > promote your local job, in our case, to promote our Plone user group. > > > > These are good reasons. What I imagined was a site, where local > groups can directly add their info, programme etc. That would reduce > the amount of work done by you and others, who must keep a central > page up-to-date. Posting on plone.org is not easy. Therefore I > thought it would be easier to have a wpd-page where more people have > access to. > > Of course we can promote the wpd on any local page like > worldploneday.de or zope.de, but this would be an "isolated" page. If > a journalist takes a look at it, he sees a handful of wpd-events in > Germany. He won't understand the global impact of the wpd at once. A > google map might give him a hint, but I am not sure… > > If everyone adds his event to a central wpd.org summing up all > events, summing up all presentations and talks would be easy. And all > the work would be done by local activists. If we all use our own > page, information is spread over 20 or more sites around the world.
+1 I agree that a central worldploneday.org site is definitely better for the reasons outlined above. > > > >> 2. Refining target group > >> We discovered that a great percentage of our participants were > >> people who already heard of Plone before or even uses it already. > >> So it is good to have a mixture of basic talks like »What Is > >> Plone?« or »The Plone Community«, but you definitely need some > >> presentations for an advanced audience, for people who already > >> know Plone and its community. > > > > WPD should be an event to meet new people. I would suggest refining > > the communication instead. In our country most of the attendees > > were new people. And the 'old' ones cames to meet the new people. > > How you promote the event locally will impact the people you bring. > > > > I must admit that we made too less noise, because the wpd came too > late for our planning, so next year we will have a lot more > communication, which certainly will be targeted to new people. > > But there will always be many people who used Plone for a year or > used Zope some five years ago, or had already done some evaluation > and now wants to see, what is going on behind the doors. I was lucky > that we were prepared for these people by chance and wanted to share > our experience. > > > > we need more help here. Gerry made a great job, but we should have > > more people assisting him. > > > > Yes, all marketing is local. We have several communities in Germany > which I would like to conquer. ;-) > > > Considering it was the first edition, i think it was a great event, > > so it is great you sent feedback because we need it to define the > > goals for wpd 2009. > > Absolutely. It was really great! > > > Also the numbers, if you can send us how many people attended in > > Germany i would thank you a lot! > > > > I hope to get the numbers after the weekend. Do we collect it anywere > in a survey? > > juh > > -- > Business: http://hasecke.com --- Private: http://hasecke.eu --- Blog: > http://www.sudelbuch.de --- History: www.generationenprojekt.de --- > Europe: www.wikitution.org > > _______________________________________________ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism _______________________________________________ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism