Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I will
definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it.
Gentza,  I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has been a
while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how much I am able to
commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to participate to the OSonOS I
will have to see about the earlier session. If so yes helping preparing the
space is probably a good idea. I have organised concerts before and I do
appreciate the thrill of anticipation.
Thank you all,
JF

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on the
> message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings, and we just
> willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an explanation, that's it!
>
> I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)).
>
> Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been always so
> rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in which we had no way
> to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few colleagues said "go ahead" in
> December, we started joyfully with our small dream.
>
> Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 OS
> meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up during next
> days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for whatever we
> could help you: *[email protected] <[email protected]>*)
>
>
> 26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex times: how
> are we going ahead in cooperative ways?
>
> 29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS practice all
> over the world?
>
> ​
>
>
> JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology: the
> user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us in the
> practice of preparing the space during the 23th September and / or 28th.
> Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier!
>
> Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS in
> Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their interviews.
>
> Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao!
>
> Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation!
>
> Gentza Eleder
> Mundaka/Bilbao
> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/
>
> https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH
>
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>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear Jean-Francois,
>
> yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to get into
> this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee.
> In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not be
> learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we already know
> about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it being burried deep
> down.
> In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time everything is
> entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day variety)
> where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been observed, that
> participants could no longer do without open space.
> So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to take a
> deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that you never
> experienced before.
> For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3 decades of
> all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew everything. It was
> tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it still is. By the way, that
> was in 1996 at a "training" with Harrison Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey
> Park...
>
> So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards Bilbao
> and have a great time.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map
>
> https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion
>
>
> and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with you.
> At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time here... I
> might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in Berlin, I hear some
> folks are planning that for 2023...
>
> Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF:
>
> Hello All,
> I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years. Yet I
> have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this interest
> further and actually participate and be involved with OST events.
> I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in a
> large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager with a
> view to help build collective intelligence in organisations through
> innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and various practices
> such as OST.
> I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told before that
> the best and only way to learn about OST is to experience it first hand.
> That makes a lot of sense and I think that this would be a great eye opener
> for me as well as a growing opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating
> participating in the next OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France)
> but I want to make sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to
> get initiated in OST.
> Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice.
> Regads,
>
> Jean-François (JF)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Gentza Eleder,
>>
>> you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and space for
>> the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of ost to change
>> business culture, have better meetings or all the other things one might
>> find important.
>> It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing stuff
>> every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find that these
>> were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that happens has never
>> been grasped. And participants are regularily simply not interested to
>> research this, they just want to get going. The important observation is
>> that it works. And if it is used regularily in an organisation those
>> organisations change all by themselves (see the decade long experiment in
>> the Agency for Youth in Europe).
>> Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force in
>> the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for billions
>> of year.
>> It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in place
>> to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment in
>> selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the matter,
>> large diversity of participants, high conflict and high urgency to act and,
>> not to forget, voluntarty participation.
>>
>> Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts in
>> attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists, medicine
>> men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects, teachers,
>> mothers and very important: children. If you have children and youngsters
>> at the event among all the others you will find that an amazing ingredient
>> for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and it needs not to be researched,
>> we have seen it.
>>
>> Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the world.
>>
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> Love and Peace
>> mmp
>>
>>
>> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder:
>>
>> Hi friends, how are you?
>> We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz Documentaries
>> <https://www.goodhabitz.com/en-gb/why-goodhabitz/doing-things-differently/goodhabitz-moments/>
>> .
>> They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao to
>> film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space on Open
>> Space.
>>
>> Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread through
>> the OSLIST, as follows:
>>
>> ....
>>
>>
>> *For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
>> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. Or
>> someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to interview
>> such an expert about how you can change the business culture or the
>> approach in order to have better meetings. *
>>
>> *.... *
>>
>>
>> *Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? *
>>
>>
>> Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in
>> September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)?
>>
>> I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly in the
>> conversation or open new questions.
>>
>>
>> Best of all,
>>
>>
>> Gentza Eleder
>>
>> BuM_31 unJobbing
>>
>> Mundaka
>>
>> (+0034) 638.733.223
>>
>>
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers
>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> escreveu:
>>
>> Hi Gentza, good morning!
>>
>> How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers!
>>
>> I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? Just to
>> get an idea :)
>>
>> ....
>>
>> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
>> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. Or
>> someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to interview
>> such an expert about how you can change the business culture or the
>> approach in order to have better meetings.
>> ....
>>
>> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event?
>>
>> Hope to hear from you.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and efforts!
>>
>> Have a good day,
>> Marije
>>
>>
>>
>>
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