Sounds like a good idea, we can discuss it at the closing circle of the
Berlin OS

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, 17:13 Silvia Ferrari - mooncult via OSList, <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> while waiting to meet those of you who will be in Berlin, I would like to
> share with you a reflection on my proposal to host the Wosonos 2024 in
> Italy. Gerardo told me about a tradition that has long governed the
> transition from one Wosonos to another: the alternation of continents.
> If the Wosonos 2024 were in Italy, it would be the third year in a row in
> Europe. Perhaps it may not be very inclusive for those who do not live in
> Europe? Does it make sense perhaps to postpone my invitation to Italy to
> 2025 and see if there are other proposals for 2024?
> Tell me what you think.
> Thank you,
> Silvia
>
> *Silvia Ferrari - mooncult*
> *Facilitator *
> [email protected] - +393403434580
> www.mooncult.it
>
>
> Il giorno 9 nov 2022, alle ore 16:51, Jo Toepfer via OSList <
> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> for those of you who did not attend the WOSonOS in Bilbao: Next stop is
> Berlin.
>
> After 2000 and 2010 we will have the privilege to host the WOSonOS 2023 in
> Berlin. No other candidate city raised the hand and the closing circle in
> Bilbao was pretty clear. So, I took our talking stick back to Berlin where
> it is waiting to be used in the next edition of the WOSonOS.
>
> Dates and location are already clear:
>
> October 18 through 21, 2023: We will get together on the evening of Oct 18
> for the opening evening / night / party. And, from Oct 19 through 21 we
> will conduct a full scale 3-days Open Space event.
>
> The location is Beach Mitte <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/>
> <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> This is an inner city beach
> resort with all kind of facilities and opportunities in Berlin downtown.
> The management of this venue is highly interested in interactive management
> and conference formats. They support hosting the WOSonOS in their venue
> with a significant discount. They do not charge any rent for the venue we
> only need to cover expenses for food, drinks and staff. This will allow us
> to sell tickets for a moderate price. We will hopefully be able to start
> selling the tickets by the end of this year.
>
> The International Association of Facilitators / Europe and Middle East
> chapter will probably held their bi-annual conference in the same venue
> just a few days before: Oct 16 through 18, 2023. Most likely, it will be
> organised be the German IAF chapter which has a stronghold in Berlin. And
> most of the IAF colleagues are familiar with Open Space and attended
> WOSonOSes in the past. We intend to link the two events for participants
> who are interested in attending both.
>
> In the closing circle in Bilbao we heard that some colleagues form Italy
> are interested to host the coming WOSonOS in 2024 in Bologna. Is this still
> valid?
>
> I hope to see many of you in Berlin next year.
>
> Warm regards
> Jo
>
> *****************************
> Am 14.10.22 um 15:04 schrieb Anna Caroline Türk:
>
> Dear JF,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to keep thinking out loud and to speak more
> to your chapters of your potential book. :)
>
> I hope other people will reply to your thoughtful exploration, and
> highlight what resonates with them.
> I have only passion to reply to two aspects that stand out for me in your
> mail. And while I might be disagreeing with what I hear, I hope this mail
> also conveys the spirit of an energized conversation, which we could
> quickly have over a coffee or tea in an in-person-meeting. And by then end
> leave with a smile as we agree to disagree.
>
> I am unsure what you refer to when you write, that you hear me when I
> expressed reservations regarding corporate resistance.
> I was hoping to convey that I have empathy with leaders who resist
> interventions that promote "organizational therapy" and "sexuality". (I am
> aware that I might taking you too literally here ...)
>
> But in that similar spirit you mention in your last mail that you believe
> that leaders  "need a bit of shaken up. I think some corporate leaders
> recognize this and might be more attracted to thought provoking and
> intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for breath
> and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence."
>
> We might be not too different in our perception, because we both like
> silence, but I disagree with the approach to shake people up. My approach
> would be to create a learning environment, a nourishing environment, rather
> than a provoking or shaking environment.
>
> I can only relate to my own learning preferences and I have find that I
> learn, expand and grow the most when I learn together in a life nourishing
> environment, where the intention is to create genuine connection with self,
> other and creation. I believe it is because of the breathing and sitting
> in a circle together that the wisdom of the group will emerge and best next
> steps will be identified by those who work (and live) together. This will
> includes both challenging and generating conversations.
>
>
> The other aspect I would like to point out is the notion of a "safe
> mechanism". You write:
> "Ideally, an open space event should allow people to raise issues or
> questions that they did not dare raise before. Mostly because there was no
> safe mechanism to do so. In open space, it is part of the game."
> I would say that instead of a "safe" mechanism", open space gives an
> "appropriate" mechanism.
> Do you mean its a safe mechanism - because Open Space will guarantee
> that everyone speaks up?
> I am quite careful with this assumption. Careful preparation with the
> leaders (and potentially other invitees) are mandatory to strengthen
> everyone's experience of Open Space as a space where conversations can be
> brought up, even if they are difficult.
>
> For the preparation I therefore include the following ( not complete
> list):
>
>    - Is this the right date and space for the Open Space
>    - Is the purpose clear
>    - Is there enough time allocated to this event - given
>    the stated purpose of the Open Space
>    - Is the invitation text and the title open and inviting
>    - Is clear what is not up for discussion
>    - Is it clearly stated how leaders/participants work with the findings
>    of this Open Space.
>    - Have leaders committed to and planned in follow up work
>
> Only when all of this is clear and explicit, do I trust that it provides a
> mechanism to bring up what needs to be discussed and maybe healed at that
> time.
> Following the principles of open space.
>
> So far my thoughts.
>
> Happy weekend,
> Anna Caroline
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Anna Caroline Türk*
> Mentor to Visionary Leaders
> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com  <http://truthcircles.com/>
>
>
> Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 12:14 Uhr schrieb JF <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hello Anna Caroline,
>>
>> At this point, my week in Bilbao is indistinguishable from my OST
>> experience as a whole. Considering open space as primarily experiential and
>> personal, I would probably like to keep it this way.
>>
>> I wrote this note as a spontaneous light hearted attempt to encapsulate
>> some fleeting thoughts and sensations that coalesced from the various
>> sessions I participated in. In that sense it is rooted in my specific OST
>> Bilbao experience. But I suppose it could be extrapolated to OST in
>> general. Some of the most personal experiences and meditations I had while
>> hiking on the basque coastline during the week-end are also present here.
>>
>> To be perfectly honest, I was also trying to be a little "tongue in
>> cheek" by bringing together seemingly unrelated and unexpected topics.
>> Those associations make sense to me but in a way that was more instinctive
>> than rational. I have not really rationalized further until now.
>>
>> I am very happy you are calling me on it however and I guess you are now
>> asking me to start writing the chapters of this hypothetical book.
>>
>> I hear what you are saying about your reservations regarding corporate
>> resistance. However, one of my personal take away from my stay in Bilbao is
>> that if we truly believe that it is important to bring in philosophical or
>> spiritual considerations, we should be confident and bold about it and not
>> try to bow to a rather stiff corporate way. The justification is that a
>> unique and possibly unusual perspective is precisely the highest value we
>> can bring to the corporate world. The relative stiffness and conformism of
>> corporations (especially as they grow big) is a core problem they face to
>> remain nimble and innovative. They need a bit of shaken up. I think some
>> corporate leaders recognize this and might be more attracted to thought
>> provoking and intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your
>> proposal for breath and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think
>> of silence.
>>
>> Now, that being said beyond slightly provocative titles the important
>> part is to bring some substance and valuable insights. So let me try to
>> give it a go on the two chapters you mention.
>>
>>
>> *Energy, sexuality and quantum physics*
>>
>> Well, obviously that title is meant to be both provocative and confusing.
>> I mean, what is the relation between quantum physics and sexuality right?
>>
>> You rightly picked up on sexuality which is taboo especially in the
>> workplace. Organizations are now essentially a-sexual. We should certainly
>> celebrate the progress that has been made to make harassment in the
>> workplace unacceptable and we must continue in this direction. At the same
>> time most of us are not asexual and I think it is both illusory and
>> hypocritical to ask people to switch off their sexual energy while at work.
>> One of the session we had in Bilbao offers a possible avenue of exploration
>> by expanding on the notion of sexual energy.
>>
>> To be precise, the session was about *sacred* sexuality as a tool for
>> social transformation. During the session, we danced in order to loosen up
>> and then we explored levels of intimacy through a guided shared experience
>> of our 5 senses. It was very intense and sometimes quite challenging. I
>> personally found it disturbing and difficult but also liberating. For
>> instance, when you do spend even a few seconds with someone, smelling each
>> other, it does change how you relate to one another. So that is the social
>> transformation part. It is very animalistic and I guess it's the point.
>>
>> In sacred sexuality we try to connect to the primal energy of creation.
>> As the convener of the session defines it : "the energy of sacred
>> sexuality, as the energy of life creation, which helps us to integrate our
>> accepted and denied parts (lights and shadows) and leads to living in
>> TOTALITY". The ability to be totally present (oneness) is a theme that
>> should resonate with many visionary organisations / leaders. It is about
>> reclaiming sexual energy which had been repressed by religion and has now
>> been commercialized and consequently distorted.
>>
>> This is in essence a spiritual journey. That primal energy relates to the
>> "eros" of the ancient greek. It is the same energy which pushes a blade of
>> grass to grow even through a small crack in the pavement. It is in a sense
>> the energy of life. This creative energy is at the core of reproduction and
>> sexuality but it can also be expressed in ways that are not purely sexual.
>> This is the key that is offered here. Rather than trying to suppress and
>> repress sexual energy the proposal is to find ways to transcend and harness
>> this powerful energy and express it in ways that are safe and respectful as
>> well as fruitful and transformative.
>>
>> I see this primal energy as a potential. Something that can be felt and
>> that stirs us. It is like a fire inside which can consume us or which we
>> can learn to utilize in productive and creative ways. This energy exists
>> but it is not real until we actualize it into action on the world. And this
>> is the link with quantum physics. Quantum particles have a probability
>> state or quantum wave function which is unknown and unknowable until it is
>> collapsed through observation. This connection would need further
>> elaboration but there maybe something interesting.
>>
>>
>> *Open Space as social and personal therapy*
>>
>> I suppose organizational therapy would be more correct. I guess the
>> reason why you picked up therapy has somewhat corporate inappropriate has
>> to do with stigma around mental health and psychotherapy. Mental health is
>> a hot issue in corporations these days. HR departments all over are working
>> hard to dissipate that stigma and to create safe places for people to
>> express their vulnerability. At an individual level I believe this is
>> driven by empathy and acceptance. From the point of view of the
>> organization, the motivations might be more about safety, innovation and
>> ultimately productivity.
>>
>> I personally have reservations about the notion of mental illness because
>> it tends to push the responsibility on the individual. It implies that it
>> is the individual who is ill and therefore requires treatment. Worse still,
>> treatment too often equates to chemicals. While it is true that
>> individually we ought to do work on ourselves and deal with whatever issues
>> we have or have inherited, I believe that a more holistic perspective is
>> more fruitful and sustainable. It would need to recognize that the social,
>> societal and organizational contexts are also very important to mental well
>> being.
>>
>> Many therapies are based on language and open communication. They require
>> a space that is safe and free of judgment. I think Open Space can provide
>> that and in a sense aims to do that by default. We call on passion and
>> responsibility. Both are challenging in their own way. Passion in
>> particular can expose some of our vulnerabilities. Ideally, an open space
>> event should allow people to raise issues or questions that they did not
>> dare raise before. Mostly because there was no safe mechanism to do so. In
>> open space, it is part of the game. This in itself (taking the skeleton out
>> of the closet) is already therapeutic for both the individual and the
>> group. The discussion that ensues, provided that it is done with respect,
>> can also have very therapeutic effects. People feel heard. The organization
>> has an opportunity to grow and even maybe heal some untold conflict or
>> misunderstanding.
>>
>>
>> So here it is, I hope it offers some clarification and hopefully
>> triggers further thought. I look forward to further feedback and
>> discussion.
>>
>> Most kind regards,
>>
>> JF
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:02 PM Anna Caroline Türk <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JF,
>>>
>>> I am happy you enjoyed your Open Space experience in Bilbao.
>>> I wondering if your list speaks to your week in Bilbao or to your
>>> experience of Open Space Technology?
>>>
>>> "Your List / potential chapters of a book" include:
>>>
>>>    - Coming home to transformation
>>>    - Energy, sexuality and quantum physics
>>>    - Matter, time and the architecture or open space
>>>    - Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket
>>>    - Open Space as social and personal therapy
>>>    - Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as fit
>>>    for purpose solution)
>>>
>>> You spoke about your perceptions that leaders might be afraid of
>>> applying OST in the corporate context.
>>> I feel some resistance when I read "sexuality" and "therapy" - can you
>>> speak more to your points so I can understand this better?
>>>
>>> When I think of a list/ chapters about OST I can imagine including:
>>>
>>>    - invitation
>>>    - circle
>>>    - breath
>>>    - emergence
>>>    - energy
>>>    - creation
>>>    - power
>>>    - connection
>>>    - intimacy
>>>    - genuine connections
>>>    - wisdom
>>>    - actions
>>>
>>> What would others add to their list/chapter of a book about Open Space
>>> Technology?
>>>
>>> Greetings from Berlin
>>> Anna Caroline
>>>
>>>
>>> *Anna Caroline Türk*
>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders
>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com  <http://truthcircles.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Perret <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> Open Space as social therapy!
>>>>
>>>> I love it. Especially as a chapter in a book.
>>>>
>>>> I feel your message and I look forward to my next coming home to
>>>> transformation.
>>>>
>>>> Best, Thomas
>>>>
>>>> On 2022-10-04 09:10, JF wrote:
>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > So here I am back from an intense and very rewarding OST experience in
>>>> > Bilbao. It was indeed a very transformative moment right at the
>>>> > inflexion point of my personal and professional development. The funny
>>>> > thing though is that despite the novelty and all the new faces it felt
>>>> > like coming home. A feeling hard to explain but I suspect people on
>>>> > this list would understand.
>>>> >
>>>> > As I was driving back on Saturday there were so many thoughts coming
>>>> > through my mind I thought I could probably write a whole book about
>>>> > this amazing week in Basque country. Here are some of the chapters
>>>> > title for that book:
>>>> >
>>>> >       * Coming home to transformation
>>>> >       * Energy, sexuality and quantum physics
>>>> >       * Matter, time and the architecture or open space
>>>> >       * Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket
>>>> >       * Open Space as social and personal therapy
>>>> >       * Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as
>>>> fit
>>>> > for purpose solution)
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like to thank everyone for a very warm welcome and amazing
>>>> > discussions and thank you for the encouragement from people on this
>>>> > list to make the trip.
>>>> >
>>>> > Most warm greetings and hugs,
>>>> > JF
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:44 PM ingrid ebeling ebus
>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear Gentza,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> well, yesterday I decided to come and join the WOSonOS 2022 in
>>>> >> Bilbao. I hesitated for quite a while, taking the train 32 hours or
>>>> >> what ever. All the sudden it seemed to be easy and got myself a
>>>> >> flight ticket.
>>>> >> Regarding the accommodation I need some help. Earlier you mentioned
>>>> >> a centric new hostel 5 minutes´ walk from the WOSonOS. How can I
>>>> >> find out, whether it is still available or find an alternative
>>>> >> house?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now I’m looking forward seeing you all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ingrid
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Systemic Prozess facilitation  Executive Coaching • Large Group
>>>> >> Intervention
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover • Germany
>>>> >> fon +49-511-336 03 30 • mobile +49-172-5145179
>>>> >> [email protected]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am 09.09.2022 um 10:31 schrieb Gentza Eleder
>>>> >> <[email protected]>:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Jean Fracnçois!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm happy about your decission!
>>>> >> Let us know if there's anything we could help you with.
>>>> >> Same for anyone that still is considering to take part totally or
>>>> >> partially in the WOS week  in Bilbao, we are happy to make it
>>>> >> easaier to you!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We are passionate about making it easier to anyone that feels the
>>>> >> thrill and the passion on this gathering to join us!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The "travel" is being so nice!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best wishes!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mundaka
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ps. Michael, we'll keep you in our hearts Bilbao, and will do our
>>>> >> best to join you some day, maybe next year, in Berlin! Thanks so
>>>> >> much for your support!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ------- Original Message -------
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Em quinta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2022 às 22:25, JF
>>>> >> <[email protected]> escreveu:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I
>>>> >> will definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it.
>>>> >> Gentza, I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has
>>>> >> been a while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how much
>>>> >> I am able to commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to
>>>> >> participate to the OSonOS I will have to see about the earlier
>>>> >> session. If so yes helping preparing the space is probably a good
>>>> >> idea. I have organised concerts before and I do appreciate the
>>>> >> thrill of anticipation.
>>>> >> Thank you all,
>>>> >> JF
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on
>>>> >> the message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings,
>>>> >> and we just willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an
>>>> >> explanation, that's it!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been
>>>> >> always so rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in
>>>> >> which we had no way to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few
>>>> >> colleagues said "go ahead" in December, we started joyfully with our
>>>> >> small dream.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 OS
>>>> >> meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up during
>>>> >> next days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for
>>>> >> whatever we could help you: [email protected])
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex times:
>>>> >> how are we going ahead in cooperative ways?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS practice
>>>> >> all over the world?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology:
>>>> >> the user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us
>>>> >> in the practice of preparing the space during the 23th September and
>>>> >> / or 28th. Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS
>>>> >> in Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their
>>>> >> interviews.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gentza Eleder
>>>> >> Mundaka/Bilbao
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sent with Proton Mail [1] secure email.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ------- Original Message -------
>>>> >> On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz
>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Jean-Francois,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to
>>>> >> get into this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee.
>>>> >> In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not be
>>>> >> learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we
>>>> >> already know about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it
>>>> >> being burried deep down.
>>>> >> In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time everything
>>>> >> is entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day
>>>> >> variety) where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been observed,
>>>> >> that participants could no longer do without open space.
>>>> >> So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to
>>>> >> take a deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that
>>>> >> you never experienced before.
>>>> >> For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3
>>>> >> decades of all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew
>>>> >> everything. It was tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it
>>>> >> still is. By the way, that was in 1996 at a "training" with Harrison
>>>> >> Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey Park...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards
>>>> >> Bilbao and have a great time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin
>>>> >> mmp
>>>> >>
>>>> >> PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map
>>>> >> https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion
>>>> >> and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with
>>>> >> you.
>>>> >> At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time
>>>> >> here... I might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in
>>>> >> Berlin, I hear some folks are planning that for 2023...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello All,
>>>> >> I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years.
>>>> >> Yet I have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this
>>>> >> interest further and actually participate and be involved with OST
>>>> >> events.
>>>> >> I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in
>>>> >> a large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager
>>>> >> with a view to help build collective intelligence in organisations
>>>> >> through innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and
>>>> >> various practices such as OST.
>>>> >> I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told
>>>> >> before that the best and only way to learn about OST is to
>>>> >> experience it first hand. That makes a lot of sense and I think that
>>>> >> this would be a great eye opener for me as well as a growing
>>>> >> opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating participating in the next
>>>> >> OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France) but I want to make
>>>> >> sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to get initiated
>>>> >> in OST.
>>>> >> Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice.
>>>> >> Regads,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jean-François (JF)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz
>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Gentza Eleder,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and space
>>>> >> for the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of ost
>>>> >> to change business culture, have better meetings or all the other
>>>> >> things one might find important.
>>>> >> It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing
>>>> >> stuff every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find
>>>> >> that these were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that
>>>> >> happens has never been grasped. And participants are regularily
>>>> >> simply not interested to research this, they just want to get going.
>>>> >> The important observation is that it works. And if it is used
>>>> >> regularily in an organisation those organisations change all by
>>>> >> themselves (see the decade long experiment in the Agency for Youth
>>>> >> in Europe).
>>>> >> Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force
>>>> >> in the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for
>>>> >> billions of year.
>>>> >> It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in
>>>> >> place to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment in
>>>> >> selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the
>>>> >> matter, large diversity of participants, high conflict and high
>>>> >> urgency to act and, not to forget, voluntarty participation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts in
>>>> >> attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists,
>>>> >> medicine men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects,
>>>> >> teachers, mothers and very important: children. If you have children
>>>> >> and youngsters at the event among all the others you will find that
>>>> >> an amazing ingredient for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and
>>>> >> it needs not to be researched, we have seen it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the
>>>> >> world.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin
>>>> >> Love and Peace
>>>> >> mmp
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi friends, how are you?
>>>> >> We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz
>>>> >> Documentaries [2].
>>>> >> They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao
>>>> >> to film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space on
>>>> >> Open Space.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread
>>>> >> through the OSLIST, as follows:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert.
>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to
>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business
>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in
>>>> >> September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly
>>>> >> in the conversation or open new questions.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best of all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gentza Eleder
>>>> >>
>>>> >> BuM_31 unJobbing
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mundaka
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ------- Original Message -------
>>>> >> Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers
>>>> >> <[email protected]> escreveu:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Gentza, good morning!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? Just
>>>> >> to get an idea :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert.
>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to
>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business
>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hope to hear from you.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks for your time and efforts!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have a good day,
>>>> >> Marije
>>>> >>
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>>>> > Michael M Pannwitz
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>>>> > +49 30 7728000     [email protected]
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>>>> >
>>>> > Links:
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>>>> > [1] https://proton.me/
>>>> > [2]
>>>> >
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