Dear Gentza,
well, yesterday I decided to come and join the WOSonOS 2022 in
Bilbao. I hesitated for quite a while, taking the train 32 hours or
what ever. All the sudden it seemed to be easy and got myself a
flight ticket.
Regarding the accommodation I need some help. Earlier you mentioned
a centric new hostel 5 minutes´ walk from the WOSonOS. How can I
find out, whether it is still available or find an alternative
house?
Now I’m looking forward seeing you all.
Ingrid
Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS
Systemic Prozess facilitation Executive Coaching • Large Group
Intervention
Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover • Germany
fon +49-511-336 03 30 • mobile +49-172-5145179
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Am 09.09.2022 um 10:31 schrieb Gentza Eleder
<[email protected]>:
Hi Jean Fracnçois!
I'm happy about your decission!
Let us know if there's anything we could help you with.
Same for anyone that still is considering to take part totally or
partially in the WOS week in Bilbao, we are happy to make it
easaier to you!
We are passionate about making it easier to anyone that feels the
thrill and the passion on this gathering to join us!
The "travel" is being so nice!
Best wishes!
Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/
Mundaka
(+0034) 638.733.223
ps. Michael, we'll keep you in our hearts Bilbao, and will do our
best to join you some day, maybe next year, in Berlin! Thanks so
much for your support!
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Em quinta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2022 às 22:25, JF
<[email protected]> escreveu:
Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I
will definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it.
Gentza, I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has
been a while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how much
I am able to commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to
participate to the OSonOS I will have to see about the earlier
session. If so yes helping preparing the space is probably a good
idea. I have organised concerts before and I do appreciate the
thrill of anticipation.
Thank you all,
JF
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected]>
wrote:
Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on
the message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings,
and we just willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an
explanation, that's it!
I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)).
Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been
always so rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in
which we had no way to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few
colleagues said "go ahead" in December, we started joyfully with our
small dream.
Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 OS
meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up during
next days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for
whatever we could help you: [email protected])
26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex times:
how are we going ahead in cooperative ways?
29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS practice
all over the world?
JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology:
the user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us
in the practice of preparing the space during the 23th September and
/ or 28th. Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier!
Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS
in Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their
interviews.
Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao!
Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation!
Gentza Eleder
Mundaka/Bilbao
http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/
https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH
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On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Jean-Francois,
yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to
get into this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee.
In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not be
learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we
already know about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it
being burried deep down.
In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time everything
is entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day
variety) where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been observed,
that participants could no longer do without open space.
So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to
take a deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that
you never experienced before.
For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3
decades of all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew
everything. It was tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it
still is. By the way, that was in 1996 at a "training" with Harrison
Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey Park...
So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards
Bilbao and have a great time.
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map
https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion
and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with
you.
At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time
here... I might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in
Berlin, I hear some folks are planning that for 2023...
Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF:
Hello All,
I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years.
Yet I have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this
interest further and actually participate and be involved with OST
events.
I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in
a large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager
with a view to help build collective intelligence in organisations
through innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and
various practices such as OST.
I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told
before that the best and only way to learn about OST is to
experience it first hand. That makes a lot of sense and I think that
this would be a great eye opener for me as well as a growing
opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating participating in the next
OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France) but I want to make
sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to get initiated
in OST.
Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice.
Regads,
Jean-François (JF)
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Gentza Eleder,
you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and space
for the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of ost
to change business culture, have better meetings or all the other
things one might find important.
It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing
stuff every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find
that these were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that
happens has never been grasped. And participants are regularily
simply not interested to research this, they just want to get going.
The important observation is that it works. And if it is used
regularily in an organisation those organisations change all by
themselves (see the decade long experiment in the Agency for Youth
in Europe).
Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force
in the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for
billions of year.
It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in
place to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment in
selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the
matter, large diversity of participants, high conflict and high
urgency to act and, not to forget, voluntarty participation.
Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts in
attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists,
medicine men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects,
teachers, mothers and very important: children. If you have children
and youngsters at the event among all the others you will find that
an amazing ingredient for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and
it needs not to be researched, we have seen it.
Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the
world.
Greetings from Berlin
Love and Peace
mmp
Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder:
Hi friends, how are you?
We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz
Documentaries [2].
They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao
to film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space on
Open Space.
Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread
through the OSLIST, as follows:
....
For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert.
Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to
interview such an expert about how you can change the business
culture or the approach in order to have better meetings.
....
Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event?
Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in
September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)?
I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly
in the conversation or open new questions.
Best of all,
Gentza Eleder
BuM_31 unJobbing
Mundaka
(+0034) 638.733.223
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Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers
<[email protected]> escreveu:
Hi Gentza, good morning!
How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers!
I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? Just
to get an idea :)
....
For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a
psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert.
Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to
interview such an expert about how you can change the business
culture or the approach in order to have better meetings.
....
Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event?
Hope to hear from you.
Thanks for your time and efforts!
Have a good day,
Marije
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