Hm, tell me what
"It allows a cypher to chit away"
means.
And are you Chris or Chad?

Just gained an hour since we switched to winter time.
If I had not gained it, I would not have had the time to attend to this issue.

Have a great day and enjoy the extra hour  if it exists in your territory (you could use it to include yourself in the Open Space World Map joining another 507 os workers on this planet)
https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion

Greetings from Berlin

mmp
Am 30.10.2022 um 04:12 schrieb C. Fuller via OSList:
no, no. Dynamic Governance/Sociocracy is 'consenting to' rather than consensus. It allows a cypher to chit away, in the background, rather than actively engage.  Look at the nature of the community the two largest proponents live in (Cherry Hill Co-Ho). It shows that it really does not build community.  The subscribed organization structure is fair to midlen but the decision making process is exclusionary. One man's opinion (but I'm not alone).  With apologies (but earnestness),
- -Chad
Consultations:
Organization Development / Community Development
Networker
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-----Original Message-----
From: Funda Oral via OSList <[email protected]>
To: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]>; Diana Larsen <[email protected]>; Tony Budak <[email protected]>
Cc: OS LIST 2022 <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2022 2:48 am
Subject: [OSList] Re: Action Planning in Online/Offline OS 2022

Dear Diana,

As far as I understand, Open Space Technology approach is closer to *Holacracy *"https://www.holacracy.org/"; then to *Sociocracy*. Hopefully, all these approaches and methods lead to and complete each other for a better collaboration.

Have a nice weekend!

Funda

Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <[email protected]>, 29 Eki 2022 Cmt, 00:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

    Dear Diane,

    no doubt, different approaches with different unique
    characteristics do exist.
    And I assume that co-existance of different approaches with
    different unique characteristics might be fun and productive.

    My experience with very large complex systems (such as an entire
    inner city neighborhood in Berlin) is that they can benefit from
    different approaches.
    A future search that took place after a year long planning
    process produced a variety of projects people were heavily
    involved in... including close cooperation between diverse
    groups/interests.
    Against this background, an OST event that needed just one 3.5
    hour Planning Session took place a few months after the Future
    Search having the characteristics of a "next meeting".

    And, as you probably remember,  the ost event I facilitated for a
    company with a staff of 35 who work with agile worked fine as
    usual, including two next meetings in the weeks following the ost
    event.

    What I never experienced are hybrids such as an openspace-future
    search, or an agile-openspace....

    I did experience, however, that the yearly gatherings of future
    search facilitators were conducted in open space (I was part of
    this in Philadelphia, Stockholm and facilitated one on the Island
    of Jersey). The future search folks had developed impressive
    approaches in the aspect of "getting the whole system in the
    roome". Which meant, that the participants of those Learning
    Exchanges were not only facilitators but also clients (companies,
    government agencies, foundations and what have you), researchers,
    authors...
    Something we never achieved to any significant extent in our
    WOSonOS gatherings or the OS Learning Exchanges in Europe.

    How about our next WOSonOS in Berlin in 12 months?
    Would be an opportunity of having more divergence and more of the
    whole system in the room... imagine every one of us attending
    would bring along one client or other different critters...

    Wishing us all a weekend of our liking
    mmp




    Am 28.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb Diana Larsen:
    And the two can co-exist quite nicely, as in Company-wide
    Agility book by John Buck (sociocracy author) and Jutta Eckstein.


    Company-wide Agility with Beyond Budgeting, Open Space &
    Sociocracy: Survive & Thrive on Disruption
    
<https://smile.amazon.com/Company-wide-Agility-Beyond-Budgeting-Sociocracy-ebook/dp/B0841298GC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1666976094&sr=8-1>
    smile.amazon.com
    
<https://smile.amazon.com/Company-wide-Agility-Beyond-Budgeting-Sociocracy-ebook/dp/B0841298GC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1666976094&sr=8-1>

    
<https://smile.amazon.com/Company-wide-Agility-Beyond-Budgeting-Sociocracy-ebook/dp/B0841298GC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1666976094&sr=8-1>

    Diana


    eo.de <http://eo.de/>

    Michael M Pannwitz
    Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
    +49 30 [email protected]

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