"...It allows a cypher to chit away, in the background, rather than..."sorry, my own language: cypher - algorithm, a code, a math equation, a mechanical process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipher chit - process w/o need to invest one's self "...And are you Chris or Chad?..."last time we corresponded we covered that. (I only pop up in extreme circumstances). "Many misread <[email protected]> as chr "i" s as apposed to chr "L" s as theyare used to a name in that position/slot. The ISP removed the vowels from mine when giving me a url/e-mail address. My nameis "Chad". My legal/billing name is "Charles Fuller III, LICSW, Neutral", kinda long, no 1 calls me that." So I am both and more asposted to U those several yrs ago. The italicized is in a desk top file for use when asked this, U R not alone in that & I'm prepared.In Community,- -ChadPlez use the aforementioned org structure & group decision making process when having lill to no investmnt in outcome, let others take care of that for you~ -----Original Message----- From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <[email protected]> To: C. Fuller <[email protected]>; OS LIST 2022 <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2022 1:32 am Subject: [OSList] Re: OSList::Action Planning in Online/Offline OS 2022
Hm, tell me what "It allows a cypher to chit away" means. And are you Chris or Chad? Just gained an hour since we switched to winter time. If I had not gained it, I would not have had the time to attend to this issue. Have a great day and enjoy the extra hour if it exists in your territory (you could use it to include yourself in the Open Space World Map joining another 507 os workers on this planet) https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion Greetings from Berlin mmp Am 30.10.2022 um 04:12 schrieb C. Fuller via OSList: no, no. Dynamic Governance/Sociocracy is 'consenting to' rather than consensus. It allows a cypher to chit away, in the background, rather than actively engage. Look at the nature of the community the two largest proponents live in (Cherry Hill Co-Ho). It shows that it really does not build community. The subscribed organization structure is fair to midlen but the decision making process is exclusionary. One man's opinion (but I'm not alone). With apologies (but earnestness), - -Chad Consultations: Organization Development / Community Development Networker -----Original Message----- From: Funda Oral via OSList <[email protected]> To: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]>; Diana Larsen <[email protected]>; Tony Budak <[email protected]> Cc: OS LIST 2022 <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2022 2:48 am Subject: [OSList] Re: Action Planning in Online/Offline OS 2022 Dear Diana, As far as I understand, Open Space Technology approach is closer to Holacracy "https://www.holacracy.org/"; then to Sociocracy. Hopefully, all these approaches and methods lead to and complete each other for a better collaboration. Have a nice weekend! Funda Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <[email protected]>, 29 Eki 2022 Cmt, 00:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı: Dear Diane, no doubt, different approaches with different unique characteristics do exist. And I assume that co-existance of different approaches with different unique characteristics might be fun and productive. My experience with very large complex systems (such as an entire inner city neighborhood in Berlin) is that they can benefit from different approaches. A future search that took place after a year long planning process produced a variety of projects people were heavily involved in... including close cooperation between diverse groups/interests. Against this background, an OST event that needed just one 3.5 hour Planning Session took place a few months after the Future Search having the characteristics of a "next meeting". And, as you probably remember, the ost event I facilitated for a company with a staff of 35 who work with agile worked fine as usual, including two next meetings in the weeks following the ost event. What I never experienced are hybrids such as an openspace-future search, or an agile-openspace.... I did experience, however, that the yearly gatherings of future search facilitators were conducted in open space (I was part of this in Philadelphia, Stockholm and facilitated one on the Island of Jersey). The future search folks had developed impressive approaches in the aspect of "getting the whole system in the roome". Which meant, that the participants of those Learning Exchanges were not only facilitators but also clients (companies, government agencies, foundations and what have you), researchers, authors... Something we never achieved to any significant extent in our WOSonOS gatherings or the OS Learning Exchanges in Europe. How about our next WOSonOS in Berlin in 12 months? Would be an opportunity of having more divergence and more of the whole system in the room... imagine every one of us attending would bring along one client or other different critters... Wishing us all a weekend of our liking mmp Am 28.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb Diana Larsen: And the two can co-exist quite nicely, as in Company-wide Agility book by John Buck (sociocracy author) and Jutta Eckstein. | | | | Company-wide Agility with Beyond Budgeting, Open Space & Sociocracy: Survive & Thrive on Disruption smile.amazon.com | | Diana eo.de Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000 [email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000 [email protected] See the Open Space World Map with 507 Open Space Workers living in 77 countries and active in 142 countries worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org And see books/ebooks and task cards on open space and other related treasures, most in German, some in English, some multilingual: https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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