And the two can co-exist quite nicely, as in Company-wide Agility book by John Buck (sociocracy author) and Jutta Eckstein.
https://smile.amazon.com/Company-wide-Agility-Beyond-Budgeting-Sociocracy-ebook/dp/B0841298GC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1666976094&sr=8-1 Company-wide Agility with Beyond Budgeting, Open Space & Sociocracy: Survive & Thrive on Disruption smile.amazon.com Diana ************** Diana Larsen dianalarsen.com <http://dianalarsen.com/> and agilefluency.org <https://www.agilefluency.org/> NOW Available: Lead without Blame: Building Resilient Learning Teams <https://www.bkconnection.com/books/title/Lead-without-Blame> Read the books: Agile Retrospectives: Making Good Teams Great <https://pragprog.com/book/dlret/agile-retrospectives> PMI-ACP Top 10 & Amazon Top 20: Best Management Information Systems Books - 2nd edition coming soon The Art of Agile Development, 2nd edition <https://www.amazon.com/Art-Agile-Development-James-Shore/dp/1492080691> Liftoff: Start and Sustain Successful Agile Teams <https://pragprog.com/book/liftoff/liftoff-second-edition> Five Rules for Accelerated Learning <http://leanpub.com/fiverules> ******************** > On Oct 28, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Tony, > > the first sentence in the wikipedia entry is > > "Sociocracy is a theory of governance that seeks to create psychologically > safe environments and productive organizations." > > OST focuses on expanding time and space for the unfolding of the forces of > selforganisation. > It is not interested nor attached to any outcome. > > However, what regularly happens in OST events are such things as creating > safe environments, productive organisations and many other things. These are > then felt to be the aim of ost events. Wrong. Stuff like that evolves because > there is no other goal than the one postulated. > > cheers > mmp > > Am 28.10.2022 um 17:46 schrieb Tony Budak: >> Hi Michael, >> >> Love the way you shared your thinking and wrote here below. Thank you. >> >> Would you kindly share any insights regards >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocracy >> >> Thanks again and again, >> Tony >> >> On 10/28/2022 7:12 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote: >>> Dear Tonnie, >>> >>> in your email of October 23 you wrote: >>> "We tried to translate the steps from an offline environment to an online >>> one..." >>> >>> Looking at the document I noticed that you used "voting" in the Action >>> Planning part. >>> >>> Way back, when actively working as a facilitator (more than a decade ago) I >>> also used "voting". >>> However, I used the word "weighing" (gewichten, in German). >>> I was an old hand outfittet with many voting tools in my prior 3 decades as >>> an OD consultant (took me a long time to work myself out of the OD mode). >>> Keeping a close eye on everything that took place in the os events we >>> noticed that "voting" along the line of >>> "what you think is most important to work out in action plans" often led to >>> the "odd" behavior that the most important item was not worked on. >>> After a while and being aware that "voting" is a statistical approach we >>> felt that the most important aspect would be what took place at the >>> beginning of an os when posting issues: Heart and meaning, passion and >>> responsibility. >>> >>> So we decided to simply have Action Planning in open space mode. >>> This meant that on the last half day (usually on Day 3 of an open space), >>> participants met in the circle and posted "projects" they wanted to work >>> on. Oddly enough, some of the projects posted apparently had no direct >>> connection to what had happended in the divergent part (the first two >>> days). (Maybe encouraged by one of my comments in the beginning such as >>> "Divergence was in the last two days, now the focus is on projects that I >>> am passionatly interested in and will be responible for") >>> Since this approach worked beautifully and was always a dynamic and >>> intensive way of getting into the action-oriented nature of os events we >>> decided to put "voting" or "weighing" into the box labeled "one less thing >>> to do". >>> >>> In November of 2013 I had the privilege to co-facilitate the Action >>> Planning phase of the 3-day European Learning Exchange in Utrecht convened >>> by Frank Little (hi there). >>> >>> Nobody has done what is called "research" on this and much other strange >>> stuff that happens in os. And I think thats perfectly ok, knowing that what >>> works is important and being aware that at least I will never understand >>> the mysteries of systems and the force of selforganisation. Every time we >>> closely watch the prerequisites for having an open space event including >>> all other experimentally tested aspects of our craft, it works perfectly. >>> All the events that did not work that I heard of or was part of, were not >>> sufficiently close enough to duplicate the effect of the tested experiment >>> (missing even one of the prerequisites or trying to get ost working on a >>> wicked "business issue" within one day where actually 3 days were required >>> or not having enough of the system in the room... ). >>> >>> And at this point I usually tell the story of sometimes meeting folks on >>> the public transportation system in Berlin staring at me and suddenly >>> bursting out with "open space". When we figured out which open space the >>> other passenger meant and where it took place and what it was all about, I >>> would ask what took place after the event. Invariably, folks told me things >>> that I could in no way connect to the os, not even after looking at the >>> documentations that I collected in my archives. >>> Yes, I knew it was the ripple effect, completely beyond any control. >>> Well, the old admonition "never delude yourself to be in control" (never >>> delude yourself in understanding complex systems) pops up. >>> >>> I invite you to try the "Action Space" approach in one of your next online >>> events. >>> >>> The script you can find on pages 168 to 175 of the book Meine open space >>> Praxis >>> >>>> >>>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis-E-Book >>>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis >>> >>> Frank Little might have an English version of the "Action Space" that was >>> recordet at the European Learning Exchange in Utrecht back in 2013... there >>> were 20 participants from Finland, Germany, Italy, Netherlands and Poland. >>> Hi to you all just in case you kept reading up to this point. >>> >>> >>> Have a great day and lets talk more at the WOSonOS in Berlin next year >>> mmp >>> >>> Michael M Pannwitz >>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>> +49 30 7728000 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>_______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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