My experience is that self organizing systems do very well with their
primary task of adaptation. They get in trouble when we try to organize
them. I think there is a middle ground here, however. -- that would be to
watch the system closely and be supportive of system changes/adaptations
that are emerging and are positive. This would NOT mean introducing our own
ideas of where and how the system should proceed. The analogy with sailing
is exact I think. No salor creates the wind. Good sailors ride the winds
that blow.

Harrison

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 6:42 PM Tony Budak <[email protected]> wrote:

> Harrison thank you for sending your thoughts on this thread. Of course, I
> agree with you. Yes, OST "sounds good to me" as well. Yet how can social
> self-organizing do more?
> More Fun - Less Stuff,
> Tony
>
> Tony, I am curious about the "research" as it might relate to OST. MY
> experience is that it has spread globally in the most effective way -- self
> organizing networks. And I am not at all sure what we might have done
> differently. Lazy, I guess, but when something spreads to all continents
> with millions of iterations all without a plan or sponsorship. sounds good
> to me.
>
> Harrison
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 12:38 PM Tony Budak via OSList <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree that OST does not contribute to achieving change when it comes to
>> building emerging networks of 8,000,000 people.
>>
>> Social science research on networks suggests that current OST practices
>> are not effective in increasing the rate of OST usage. To improve the
>> uptake and utilization of these practices, we may need to adopt a more
>> network-informed approach to delivering OST. You can learn more about this
>> by watching Damon Centola's talk at https://youtu.be/hFijjJmndG8.
>> On 5/5/2023 10:21 AM, artfsilvaproton.me via OSList wrote:
>>
>> Excellent clarification, Michael. Thank you!
>>
>> Bach to OSLIST, Regards to all from Portugal
>>
>>
>> Artur
>>
>> *----------------------------------------*
>> *De :* Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <[email protected]>
>> *À :* Budak, Tony <[email protected]>; OS LIST <[email protected]>
>> *Envoyé :* jeudi 4 mai 2023 à 12:51:21 UTC+1
>> *Objet :* [OSList] Re: 8,000,000 Emergent - Complex Contagions &
>> Behavior Change
>>
>> Dear Tony,
>>
>> ok, here is one OST worker with an answer:
>>
>> OST has nothing to do with "achieving change".
>> However, it has been observed, that change and many other lovely things
>> happen both in and after an OST gathering. As they always do, even
>> without an OST gathering.
>> The focus of an OST event is not to promote something. The focus is on
>> the experiment that appears to expand time and space for the forces of
>> selforganisation to unfold a bit more.
>> Focusing on a anything else, would reduce the time and space for
>> selforganistion to show up a bit more.
>>
>> Before the event, the facilitator promises the sponsor that with OST all
>> issues can be addressed, worked on  and if given enough time also can
>> lead to concrete projects. Thats all, we can promise.
>> Somtimes, I myself also add that OST always works and that many things
>> can happen that nobody ever dreamed of.
>>
>> Have a great day
>> Greetings from Berlin
>>
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