I just invited my LinkedIn network of 2200 people, along with two groups totaling over 3000 people into the OSList with the invitation to join this dialogue.
It seems to me we have the ideal input criteria for a “yeasty” and “juicy” open space. May the principles and the law guide us to Peace. I’m prepared to be surprised! On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:19 PM John Warinner via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Harold. I think you raise a key point regarding the respective > roles of "stakeholders" (my word) and "spaceholders" (my take on your word). > > Sometimes, we participate in a space or system at the invitation of the > "stakeholders" wearing only our "spaceholder" hat. In those instances, I > perceive the lines between roles are relatively clear. > > Sometimes, we participate in a space or system in which we are > "stakeholders" AND "spaceholders." In those instances, I perceive the > lines between roles are less clear... and they must be navigated carefully > to maintain objectivity and the trust of the other participants. > > I understand the argument that we can and/or should avoid playing the > "spaceholder" role in spaces/systems where we are "stakeholders." > > But my personal worldview is that we are better served to acknowledge our > "stakeholdership" and practice/learn the art of serving both roles while > maintaining our objectivity and the trust of others. > > Depending on the circumstances, this MAY NOT involve introducing our own > ideas of where and how the system SHOULD proceed, but it MAY WELL involve > introducing our unique ideas/insights about where and how the system COULD > proceed. > > I believe this is consistent with the perspective you shared... but I > welcome feedback from you and/or others. > > Thank you, > JohnW > > > *John Warinner*(541) 815-4103 > [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 1:56 PM Harold Shinsato via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I love that Michael said you've already convened a dialog. It's much more >> in the spirit of Open Space to "take responsibility for what you love as an >> act of service" (as Peggy Holman says). I'll just assume that's what you've >> done and act accordingly. >> >> There are certainly strong feelings about this topic. My sense being in >> this community for over ten years is that those who "hold space" don't do >> that, at least not directly. The process of holding space is mostly in the >> pre-work, and perhaps the most beautiful illustration of this is how after >> the rules are explained, the facilitator leaves and takes a nap (as >> Harrison does). >> >> My own experience as a "holder of space", the people inviting, organizing >> and facilitating an Open Space, is that I've not reached the Zen Mastery >> level Harrison Owen has. I'm often wearing the sponsor hat as well as >> facilitator hat. So I'm not really immune from taking actions in favor of >> my biases, nor do I really believe that is necessary or even advisable to >> be rigid about this. We're human, and it's a hard task to really lean back. >> >> Yet in many ways - it's much more powerful to step back. If our theme has >> been well convened on an urgent topic with diverse and conflicting >> opinions, AVOIDING advocacy is likely to have even more powerful results in >> your desired direction. >> >> Tao Te Ching verse 7 >> >> Therefore the sages: >> Place themselves last but end up in front >> Are outside of themselves and yet survive >> Is it not due to their selflessness? >> That is how they can achieve their own goals >> Cheers, >> Harold >> >> On 5/6/23 2:02 PM, John Warinner via OSList wrote: >> >> Hmmmm... >> >> I would LOVE to participate in a dialogue around this question: >> >> *As each of us closely watches our system(s) of interest, and >> supports emerging changes/adaptations that we consider positive, to what >> degree should we introduce our own ideas of where and how the system should >> proceed?* >> >> Does someone on this thread have the interest and means to convene this >> dialogue? >> >> Thank you! >> John >> >> >> *John Warinner *(541) 815-4103 >> [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> Harold Shinsato >> [email protected] >> https://shinsato.com >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > -- *Rijon Erickson* Purple Phoenix Partners *513-375-8350* *Follow me on Twitter at *@soundslikeryan <https://twitter.com/soundslikeryan> *Connect with me on LinkedIn at *https://www.linkedin.com/in/rijonerickson/ *Book time with me at* http://calend.ly/rijon
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