Hi Harrison,
On 5/6/2023 11:18 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
My experience is that self organizing systems do very well with their
primary task of adaptation. They get in trouble when we try to
organize them.
Yes I agree
I think there is a middle ground here, however. -- that would be to
watch the system closely and be supportive of system
changes/adaptations that are emerging and are positive. This would NOT
mean introducing our own ideas of where and how the system should
proceed.
Hmm, it seems that always some one or some power will decide "where and
how the system should proceed." The winds of Artificial Intelligence are
blowing
The analogy with sailing is exact I think. No salor creates the wind.
Good sailors ride the winds that blow.
Where is this journey going and why? The winds of Artificial
Intelligence and more are of our own making. "Anthropocentrism literally
means human-centered, but in its most relevant philosophical form, it is
*the ethical belief that humans alone possess intrinsic value and wisdom
to know*." Carol Sandford, The Modern Anthropocentrism,
https://carolsanford.substack.com/p/the-modern-anthropocentrism Today's
Sailors need a modern compass to find a safe harbor.
In Solidarity,
Tony
Harrison
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 6:42 PM Tony Budak <[email protected]> wrote:
Harrison thank you for sending your thoughts on this thread. Of
course, I agree with you. Yes, OST "sounds good to me" as well.
Yet how can social self-organizing do more?
More Fun - Less Stuff,
Tony
Tony, I am curious about the "research" as it might relate to
OST. MY experience is that it has spread globally in the most
effective way -- self organizing networks. And I am not at all
sure what we might have done differently. Lazy, I guess, but when
something spreads to all continents with millions of iterations
all without a plan or sponsorship. sounds good to me.
Harrison
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 12:38 PM Tony Budak via OSList
<[email protected]> wrote:
I agree that OST does not contribute to achieving change when
it comes to building emerging networks of 8,000,000 people.
Social science research on networks suggests that current OST
practices are not effective in increasing the rate of OST
usage. To improve the uptake and utilization of these
practices, we may need to adopt a more network-informed
approach to delivering OST. You can learn more about this by
watching Damon Centola's talk at https://youtu.be/hFijjJmndG8.
On 5/5/2023 10:21 AM, artfsilvaproton.me
<http://artfsilvaproton.me> via OSList wrote:
Excellent clarification, Michael. Thank you!
Bach to OSLIST, Regards to all from Portugal
Artur
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Dear Tony,
ok, here is one OST worker with an answer:
OST has nothing to do with "achieving change".
However, it has been observed, that change and many other
lovely things
happen both in and after an OST gathering. As they always
do, even
without an OST gathering.
The focus of an OST event is not to promote something. The
focus is on
the experiment that appears to expand time and space for the
forces of
selforganisation to unfold a bit more.
Focusing on a anything else, would reduce the time and space for
selforganistion to show up a bit more.
Before the event, the facilitator promises the sponsor that
with OST all
issues can be addressed, worked on and if given enough time
also can
lead to concrete projects. Thats all, we can promise.
Somtimes, I myself also add that OST always works and that
many things
can happen that nobody ever dreamed of.
Have a great day
Greetings from Berlin
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