Brent Meeker wrote: > 1Z wrote: > > > > Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > > >>In other words it is not justified, based on our limited understanding of > >>brains, to say we'll never > >>be able to know how another feels based on observation of their brain. > > > > > > > > We don't know how insects or amoebae feel, either. > > It is not just an issue of complexity. > > We don't knw where to *start* with qualia. > > We know where to start when it comes to knowing how other people feel, i.e. > we empathize. If we > knew how our brain worked and how the brain of our friend worked, then we > could correlate the > empathized feeling with the brain events.
Correlation isn't explanation. > This doesn't mean we would experience our friends > feeling, but we could produce a mapping between his brain processes and his > (inferred) feelings. Of > course we wouldn't *know* this was right - but scientific knowledge is always > uncertain, so I don't > see that as a objection to calling it knowledge. I think you have skated past an important point. Being explanatory is not all the same as being certain. All scientific knowledge is uncertain; all knowledge worthy of the name is explanatory -- meaning it can provide answers (however uncertain) to "how" and "why" questions. > Then there are homologous structures in our > friends brain to those in a chimpanzee's brain and there are similar > behavoirs - so I think we could > extend our map to the feelings of a chimpanzee. Of course with some really > alien life form, say an > octopus, this would be difficult to test empirically - but not, I think, > impossible. At best, this anwers questions about the circumstances under which an organism might feel a quale. It doesn't say anything about what qualia are -- why red seems red. ("oh well, of course we can't answer that question..") --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---