Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: > > > > > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > >> Peter Jones writes: > >> > >> > Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> > > >> > > I can agree. No physicist posit matter in a fundamental theory. > >> > > >> > All physical theories are theories of matter (mass/energy). > >> > >> True, but they are not theories of what matter *actually is*. > > > > Hence the need for a metaphysical account of > > matter-as-Bare-Substance to complement the > > physicst's account of matter-as-behaviour. > > > > If that is done isn't what you call metaphysics the 'actual physics' and > the physicist's account of 'matter-as-behaviour' the metaphysics? Just a > rhetorical terminological gripe.
The "meta" in "metaphysics" doesn't operate like the "meta" in "metamathematics". 'The title of the work is Τῶν μετὰ τὰ φύσικα (literally, "of the things after physics"). This is generally supposed to mean that this is just a collection of works that later editors placed after Aristotle's treatises on physics, but it may well mean that the budding philosopher should study these subjects after studying physical matters such as motion, time, and animal life.' > Also, if the universe is treated as a mathematics ( of > "matter-as-bare-substance" ), isn't the scientist its metamathematics, > built of it? (With all the Godellian implications..) i.e. Scientists are > what could be called the 'metamathematics of the noumenon'? > ???? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---