Quentin Anciaux wrote: > Hi, > Le Dimanche 26 Novembre 2006 12:43, Colin Geoffrey Hales a écrit : > > Note: Scientists, by definition: > > a) are doing science on the world external to them > > b) inhabit a universe of exquisite novelty > > ...or there'd be no need for them! > Please note: Zombies by definition: > a) are functionnaly equivalent to what you called 'scientists'. > b) are undistinguishable from what you called 'scientists', because if they > were it would be a property that would easily discriminate them. > > The zombie point is a I'll say one more time a point to show non-sense in > dualistic view... what it means is either that a property of the natural/real > world is not copiable/replicable and that copying all physical/computational > properties is not enough, there is still left the PC(what you call phenomenal > consciousness which could be shorten to consciousness) which discriminate > zombie from the scientist. > > Taking your point is this: > > Definition: > > Zombie can't do science because they don't have PC. > Scientist can do science because they have PC > > Conclusion: > > Zombie can't do science because they don't have PC. > So zombie can't be a scientist.
I think his premiss is: PC is a function. >From that alone it follows that you can't have zombies, but zombies must be functional duplicated, but, in lacking PC, they would lack a function. So they would both be functionally identical and functionally different -- reductio ad absurdum. But the premiss is arbitrary --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---