Klortho wrote:
>> The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
>> writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
>> civilisation:
>> Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
>> survive without all four of these.
> Talk about assertions without any evidence!

Actually there's a lot of evidence that civilization developed and survived 
until recently without democracy or the scientific method.

Brent Meeker

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