On Aug 28, 6:31 pm, "Torgny Tholerus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (7)  From (3) mathematical concepts are objectively real.  But there
> > exist mathematical concepts (inifinite sets) which cannot be explained
> > in terms of finite physical processes.
> How can you prove that infinite sets exists?
> --
> Torgny Tholerus

Greg Cantor showed that they were indispensible for further progress
in mathematics (See 'Cantor' or Rudy Rucker 'Infinity and the
Mind' (1982).  From (1) and (2) , (3) (reality of infinite sets)

But this is goes beyond what is necessery for the actual argument that
subjective experiences are non-material.  It was simply given as an
example of a mathematical concept for which it is absolutely clear-cut
that the concept cannot be explained in physical terms.

All that is neccessery for the argument is the point made in (4) -
that 'patterns' are not equivalent to specific physical properties and
cannot be objectivity measured (Ray Kurzweil agrees with this
conclusion - see his book).  Then  from the rest, the conclusion is
proven....  subjective experiences are non-material.

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