Kim Jones wrote:
> 
> On 24/10/2008, at 5:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote:
> 
>>> There is radical brain-chemistry change of state under emotions
>>>
>>> They have a physical effect on the organism having them that can be
>>> spotted easily by a 3rd party
>>>
>>> Feelings are mildly intellectual sensations of value that we have  
>>> that
>>> give us a compass for general decision-making (not warefare or  
>>> survival)
>> OK, but that's just a matter of degree, a question of how much the  
>> person cares.
>> So you take feelings to be mild the emotions which are easily  
>> concealed.
>>
>>> Not the same chemistry involved at all
>> How do you know that?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OK - I don't 'know' that except in the sense of having the feeling  
> that I read it somewhere - usually New Scientist...
> I'm sure that I could dig up the appropriate reference for you but I  
> think you should maybe trust my 'feelings' on this ;-)
> 
> Or
> 
> 
> maybe I just have this emotional need for that to be true.....you  
> could easily accuse me of that; in fact you're too polite!
> 
> Feeling=knowing in the sense of recognising (ie a form of perception -  
> the mind's information gathering task; if something fits a recognised,  
> filed pattern we assign it a value so we can extract usefulness )

I do think that perception is more than just receiving/recording data. It 
includes an emotion or feeling that "this is worth noticing", i.e. "paying 
attention".  You don't perceive everything that impinges on your nervous system.

Brent

> 
> I am keen to see discussion on this point.
> 
> Feelings are perception via internal mapping functions (probably  
> memory-related - as in this worked well/this didn't work well)
> 
> 
> Emotions are needs (serviced by logic in battle such as debate and  
> other forms of information processing)
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 


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