Jason Resch wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     2008/11/23 Kory Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
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>      > If we apply the Conway's Life rule to all the cells, it seems
>     like the
>      > creatures in the grid ought to be conscious. If we don't apply the
>      > Life rule to any of the cells, but just pull the data from our
>      > previously-created lookup table, it seems like the creatures in the
>      > grid are not conscious. But if we apply the Life rule to half of the
>      > cells and pull the other half from the lookup table, there will
>      > (probably) be some creature in the grid who has half of the cells in
>      > its brain being computed by the Life rule, and half being pulled from
>      > the lookup table. What's the status of this creature's consciousness?
> 
>     Which leads again to the problem of partial zombies. What is your
>     objection to saying that the looked up computation is also conscious?
>     How would that be inconsistent with observation, or lead to logical
>     contradiction?
> 
> 
> I would side with Kory that a looked up recording of conscious activity 
> is not conscious.  My argument being that static information has no 
> implicit meaning because there are an infinite number of ways a bit 
> string can be interpreted.  However in a running program the values of 
> the bits do have implicit meaning according to the rules of the state 
> machine.

But this static information is produced by a dynamic computation - so it can be 
regarded as deriving its meaning from that computation.  I don't see why that 
implicit meaning shouldn't count.

Brent

> 
> What makes this weird is that in one respect our universe might be 
> considered a 4-d recording, containing a record of computations 
> performed by neurons and brains across one of its dimensions.  Perhaps 
> this is further evidence in support of Bruno's theory: mind cannot exist 
> in a physical universe because it is just a recording of a computation, 
> and only the actual computation itself can create consciousness.
> 
> Jason

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