On 20 Nov 2008, at 19:38, Brent Meeker wrote:

>  Talk about consciousness will seem as quaint
> as talk about the elan vital does now.

Then you are led to eliminativism of consciousness. This makes MEC+MAT  
trivially coherent. The price is big: consciousness does no more  
exist, like the "elan vital". MEC becomes vacuoulsy true: I say yes to  
the doctor, without even meaning it. But it seems to me that  
consciousness is not like the "elan vital". I do make the, admittedly  
non sharable, experience of consciousness all the time, so it seems to  
me that such a move consists in negating the data. If the idea of  
keeping the notion of primitive matter, which I recall is really an  
hypothesis, is so demanding that I have to abandon the idea that I am  
conscious, I will abandon the hypothetical notion of primitive matter  
But you make my point.



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