On 20 Nov 2008, at 19:38, Brent Meeker wrote:
> Talk about consciousness will seem as quaint > as talk about the elan vital does now. Then you are led to eliminativism of consciousness. This makes MEC+MAT trivially coherent. The price is big: consciousness does no more exist, like the "elan vital". MEC becomes vacuoulsy true: I say yes to the doctor, without even meaning it. But it seems to me that consciousness is not like the "elan vital". I do make the, admittedly non sharable, experience of consciousness all the time, so it seems to me that such a move consists in negating the data. If the idea of keeping the notion of primitive matter, which I recall is really an hypothesis, is so demanding that I have to abandon the idea that I am conscious, I will abandon the hypothetical notion of primitive matter instead. But you make my point. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
