On 30 Nov 2008, at 16:31, Günther Greindl wrote:

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>
>
> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
>> I realise this coming close to regarding consciousness as akin to the
>> religious notion of a disembodied soul. But what are the  
>> alternatives?
>> As I see it, if we don't discard computationalism the only  
>> alternative
>> is to deny that consciousness exists at all, which seems to me
>> incoherent.
>
> ACK
>
> But the differences are so enormous that one is again very far from
> religion. In religion, the soul is an "essence" of a person  
> interfacing
> with a material body and usually exposed to some kind of judgement  
> in an
> afterlife.


I guess you mean "our occidental religion" ( which are about 40%  
Plato, 60% Aristotle, say).



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>
> With COMP the "soul" - better: mind - is all there is - no material
> world, no essence, no judgements,


Well, to be frank, we don't know that. Open problem :)



> just COMP.


Well, mainly its consequences, IF true.

Thanks for your encouraging kind remarks in your posts,  Günther.

Bruno




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