Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> 2009/3/8 Jack Mallah <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It's not the addition then loss that's bad (since you end up with the same 
>> measure you started with); it's the loss.
>>
>> In the culling teleportation, both people are lost, which is doubly bad.  
>> Elsewhere, one new person appears, which is good, but not as good as there 
>> being two people.  So it's not a wash; it's a loss.
> 
> It's a loss that makes no difference to either of the two people that
> vanish, since both will feel that they have survived. This is not to
> say that the loss does not matter in any sense; for example, as a
> result there will be only half as many hands to chop wood. But the
> loss makes no difference to personal survival, which is what we are
> discussing here.
> 
>>> I don't agree with the way you calculate utility at all.
>> It's easy to say you don't agree but you haven't given an alternative.  
>> Precisely how would you calculate it?  U = ...
> 
> U = (Sum_i M_i Q_i) / (Sum_i M_i), as Wei Dai wrote. I don't
> understand your objection that this is less well defined than U =
> Sum_i M_i Q_i, since the variables are exactly the same in each case.
> However, stating a formula is simply another way of stating an
> opinion. The crux of the matter is that if neither I nor my copies
> will feel any different as a result of being culled, then being culled
> does not matter. It could be that my measure is being regularly halved
> every Tuesday and Thursday, and I have no way of knowing and no reason
> to care as long as it doesn't go to zero.
> 
> 

And if it went to zero you certainly wouldn't know and wouldn't care.

Brent

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