On Apr 27, 1:42 pm, Brent Meeker <meeke...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > Are you thinking of something like a linked list in which each state, in > it's inherent information, has a pointer to a previous (or future) > state. And the existence of this link constitutes the "feeling of flow"?
Hmmmm. As a metaphor that works I think. Though the pointer is explicitly in the "subjective feeling" of the state, and only implicitly in the information that underlies that subjective feeling. > I think it also entails allowing that conscious states have some > duration in time, or form a continuum. If consciousness isn't something that exists at any given instant of time, then when does it exist? It exists "outside" of time? What is a good analogy for how this would work? > My problem exactly. But if we are no longer talking about information > IN a conscious state, but rather information responsible for the > conscious state then we have introduced the possibility of a whole > physics (a brain, a world) that may be responsible for many things, only > one of which is consciousness. In particular, it may be responsible for > limiting the conscious states and for fitting them together in succession. Not if information exists platonically. So the question is, what does it mean for a physical system to "represent" a certain piece of information? With the correct "one-time pad", any desired information can be extracted from any random block of data obtained by making any desired measurement of any physical system. If I take a randomly generated one-time pad and XOR it with some real block of data, the result will still be random. But somehow the original information is there. You have the same problem with computational processes, as pointed out by Putnam and Searle. The molecular/atomic vibrations of the particles in my chair could be interpreted, with the right mapping, as implementing any conceivable computation. So unambiguously connecting information to the "physical" is not so easy, I think. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---