On 27 July, 12:25, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > >> Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what "RITSIAR" means? I > >> cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it.
On a (slightly) more serious note, to the best of my recollection the expression 'real in the sense I am real' was introduced to this list by Peter Jones some time back, and was contracted to RITSIAR (I think by me) because it was repeatedly referred to, as is happening again. The original sense was that we already intuitively grasp what 'reality' in this sense is - i.e. starting with personal reality, or simply the 'first person' - and that if we allow these intuitions to get lost in, or hopelessly mangled by, any schema purporting to tell us what is 'really real', then we're getting fooled in some deeply perverse way. That's why I've been badgering Bruno - as Peter also did - about whether the 'number realm', as specified by COMP, is to be conceived as being real in this sense: because COMP is based on the notion that we *are* in some sense numbers, or derived from numbers and their relations. So if numbers in the COMP sense don't meet this criterion of RITSIAR, then (according to me) we couldn't possibly do so either, and I'm saying that nobody in their 'right mind' should be prepared to accept this. However, I'm reasonably satisfied by Bruno's recent remarks: he does respond to the issues more or less as set out here. David > On 27/07/2009, at 11:40 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote: > > > > > Hi Kim, > > > RITSIAR means real in the sense that I am real. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > > Kim Jones wrote: > > >> Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what "RITSIAR" means? I > >> cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it. > > >> Sorry to be dumb, > > >> Kim > > Much obliged to you Brian. Hopefully, by the end of this "conversation > without end" I will know in what sense I am real!! > > cheers, > > Kim --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---