On 31 Jul 2009, at 12:43, 1Z wrote: > > > > On 31 July, 10:03, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:32, 1Z wrote (to David): >> >>> But you haven't said what the problem is in the emergence of the >>> mental >>> from the physical >> >> It is usually called the mind-body problem. There are many good book >> on the subject. > > There are many bad solutions too. Finding a good solution > means having an exat grasp of the problem, not saying in some > vague way that mind and matter are different things.
I don't see to what you make allusion. > > >> My own work is partially a reformulation of that problem (and >> partially a beginning of a solution), when taking Mechanism seriously >> into account. >> >> Tell us which step in UDA you have a problem of understanding with. >> Give us a number between 1 and 8, and a justification. OK? > > I don't have a problem in understanding anything. I have a problem > in granting Platonism. Without Platonism, there is no UDA "just > there". I guess you mean that there is no universal dovetailer (UD) out there. Who ever said that? I just say that the UD exists in the sense that you can prove its existence in a tiny weak part of Arithmetic. > > wihout a UDA there are no generated minds, without generated minds > there is no illusory matter. Sure. But the UD exists, like prime number exists. > At best you have an alternative to > materalism-realism, > not a disproof of it. Well, then there should be a number between 1 and 8, or 0 and 8 where you miss the step. Apparently it is the 0 step, given that you still don't understand that my hypothesis is just classical digital mechanism. Classical means I accept the excluded third principle. I think the confusion comes from the fact that I obtain platonist (in Plato or Plotinus sense) conclusions. But the hypotheses are 100% neutral or agnostic on this point. Like in Paris and Brussels you still confuse the conclusion (admittedly startling) and the hypothesis. Show me a piece of text I have written, anywhere, which makes you think so please, Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---