> I would define intelligence by an amount of self-introspection > ability. In that case the singularity belongs to the past, with the > discovery of "Löbian machine", that is universal machine knowing that > their are universal. > This makes all humans intelligent, as far as they have the courage and > motivation to introspect themselves enough, and be aware of the > unnameability of truth and correctness. As far as you are (luckily) > 'correct', Löbian machine like PA or ZF are as intelligent than you > and me, despite having different knowledge (even different > arithmetical knowledge).
Hi! I have a couple questions. If you say that a human is Löbian, does it only apply to the special machinery that is able to process this logic, or the whole human, whatever that is? I may be way off but ISTM that if there was a Löbian machine in the real world it would have to prove its own incorruptibility (from itself and the environment) before it could use its logic to derive any facts about the world. Would this in practice reduce Löbianity to an approximation, an imprecise model that can be "merely" useful? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

