Hi, Quentin, . Long time no exchange... and thanx. That is a good suggestion, I just cannot figure out how can a Singularity be Technological? I may have too 'big' assumptions about the 'S'-concept, including it's * closedness* so even no information can slip out (= we don't even know about its contents) while *technological* is a topical restriction/identification - I find it contradictory. OR: requires ANOTHER description of 'singularity'...? (what scares me, making 'science' even more ambiguous than it is already).
John M On 4/30/10, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe... Technological Singularity ? > > 2010/4/30 John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> > >> Dear List, >> for some weeks many write about TS (no explanation, seemingly all you >> physicists on the list know exactly what they are talking about. I don't.) >> So after 'enough is enough' I looked up Wiki. I found some 50 different >> items 'TS' may stand for, in physical sciences only some 20. >> It did not make sense when I substituted in the posts "T.S.Elliott, >> besides in the texts there are no periods in between. Nor Tectonic Slip. Or >> Teutonic Surrogates. Tyrannical Softness? I bet it does not stand on the >> Trafalgar Square. (maybe in texting lingo: *t^2* as in Time Square?). >> Somebody have mercy on me! >> John M >> >> >> On 4/30/10, Sami Perttu <sami.per...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I've been thinking about the political implications of TS. The >>> conclusions I've so far reached are quite pessimistic, but perhaps >>> they're realistic. I'm trying to come up with a detailed scenario, and >>> here are some starting points. All help is appreciated! >>> >>> I believe control is one of the paramount issues considering the >>> politics of TS, and the unfolding of TS. There are many factors that >>> point to the need for increased control, surveillance and >>> authoritarian forms of rule, and I still believe these will spill over >>> to the digital domain. But I may be missing some important component. >>> >>> -Interpersonal economic polarization is increasing. A threat from >>> below implies less democracy. >>> -TS is the biggest strategic issue of the 21st century. It can be seen >>> as the final race to global supremacy: if there are sufficient >>> computational resources available, then whoever will first achieve >>> brain digitization and emulation technologies will win the race, for >>> example by gaining a massive economic advantage, or by starting a >>> massive weapons research program. >>> -The huge potential for technological advance will fuel instability; >>> the major powers could attempt to resolve this by coming to an >>> agreement to create a global political organ to oversee all of digital >>> humanity. Rogue nations will be brought in line by economic or >>> military means. On the other hand, conflicts will likely remain >>> regional in scope, as >>> globalized capital won't tolerate a global conflagration. >>> -Digital communities can't simply be let loose. Previously most power >>> rested in the hands of an elite of analog humans, and they won't be >>> willing to relinquish their position so easily. The Luddite movement >>> will be exploited politically to this end. This will lead to strong >>> digital surveillance, a digital police force, and possibly STASI style >>> methods of enforcing control in the digital world. >>> -Such controls clearly impede productivity, which is another incentive >>> to establish global control over TS technologies. Otherwise some large >>> nation or power could hedge its bets, dispense with control and make >>> an alliance with a liberal digital community, achieving >>> a competitive advantage. >>> -Corporations will likely continue to increase their power. Strong >>> digital property rights will be established. Digital exploitation and >>> slavery will follow. >>> -Even more control is needed when most of analog humanity becomes >>> economically unviable: they will no longer be able to compete in wages >>> with digital humans. 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