2010/8/30 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>

>
> On 29 Aug 2010, at 21:20, Rex Allen wrote:
>
>  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>           Excellent topic and comments! Naturalism does seem to be a
>>> natural condition of humans given their predilection for supernatural or
>>> supranatural explanations of events that have no simplistic explanations,
>>> i.e. in terms of their common every day experiences which are limited by
>>> their socioeconomic conditions. I am not sure what Idealist Accidentalism
>>> would entail… Could you elaborate on this, Rex?
>>>
>>
>> By "idealist" I'm referring to metaphysical idealism...that what
>> fundamentally exists is mental, not physical.  And by mental I mean
>> either consciousness or existing only as an aspect of consciousness.
>> For example, there is my conscious experience of a dream, and then
>> there are the things that appear in my dreams that I am conscious
>> of...houses and chairs and trees and people.  Both categories of
>> things are mental.  The trees that appear in my dreams only exist as
>> an aspect of the dream.
>>
>> And by "accidentalism" I mean the theory that nothing that exists or
>> occurs is caused.  There is nothing that connects or controls the flow
>> of events.  The only rule is that there are no rules to appeal to.
>>
>> So "idealist accidentalism"...the view that what exists is mental, and
>> that there is no underlying process that explains or governs this
>> existence.
>>
>
> If idealist accidentalism is correct then there is no theory at all.
> But idealist accidentalism is a theory (even if vague)
> So there is no theory, and there is one theory.
> So 0 = 1.
> Contradiction.
> So idealist accidentalism is refuted.
>

I'm sorry bruno... but that is sophism...

Regards,
Quentin


>
> You may save it by insisting that idealist accidentalism is not a theory.
> It would be a mere philosophical injunction of the type  "dont' ask, don't
> search".
>
> hmm...
>
>
> Bruno
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