Hi Russell,
From: Russell Standish Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:40 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Against the Doomsday hypothesis On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:22:23AM -0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > My point is that “the whole human history timeline” assumes the Newtonian > (Laplacean Demon) idea that all events are observable by some hypothetical > entity that is exterior to the universe (aka God). Do I need to knock that > rubbish pile over for you? > > Onward! > > Stephen > . It does assume a linear human history. But the argument can be extended to be applied to any history, so transfers naturally to many histories (worlds) interpretations, where different observers can observe different histories. It can also be relativised - consider living in a galactic-wide civilisation. Then one's birth rank is rather dependent on the place and time of the ranker. But you can choose yourself as a ranker, and expect yourself to be in the middle 90% (or whatever your favourite confidence interval is) of consious entities born in that civilisation. -- [SPK] But surely you can see that this “linear human history” is one that can only be defined from the assumption that “all human history” can be determined. That’s the rub, it assumes the ability to know something that requires the existence of an external (to the multiverse) observer! That is cheating! We have to only consider information that is available from measurements that obey the laws of physics otherwise we are no better than the Scholastics and their debates about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin! If our philosophy is not based on empirical falsifiability we are merely amusing ourselves with “who is the smartest guy in the room”. I, would not win that contest and do not wish to even participate in the contest. I am just a guy trying to figure things out. It seems to me that people will try to always reason as if they are in the right hand side of the bell curve, it’s just vanity. Onward! Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.