On May 8, 2:17 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote:
> On 07.05.2012 22:21 Craig Weinberg said the following:
> > On May 7, 3:37 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
> ...
> >> Sure science grew out of Christianity, out of the decay and fragmentation 
> >> of Christianity.
> >> When Christianity was strong and in control is what we call "The Dark 
> >> Ages". Now that it
> >> is no longer in control and the Western world relies on the technology of 
> >> science,
> >> Christian apologists are writing revisionist histories.
> > I agree, organized religion has been a catastrophe for the world, and
> > it still is, but that doesn't change the historical emergence of
> > science from spiritual contemplation.
> I would suggest you to consider Soviet Union under Stalin when military
> atheists took the power over. I guess that the absolute number of
> victims was even more.
> Just one examples. Nikolai Vavilov - a famous biologist working in
> genetics (compare his fate with that of Copernicus and Galileo)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vavilov
> Late 1930s - Lysenko, who has conceived a hatred for genetics is put in
> charge of all of Soviet agriculture
> 1940 - arrested for allegedly wrecking Soviet agriculture; delivered
> more than a hundred hours of lectures on science while in prison
> 1943 - died imprisoned and suffering from dystrophia (faulty nutrition
> of muscles, leading to paralysis), in the Saratov prison.

I don't think we can say that was caused by atheism though. Soviet
communism was still atheistic after Stalin, wasn't it? There are
secular authorities in power in other countries where there has not
been any genocidal consequences. It seems like there have been and
continue to be bloody crusades and inquisitions in the name of
religion specifically that we haven't really seen associated with
movements for the sake of atheism.


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