John: who told you that "anything" evolved? especially: from nothing? that is our human stupidity presuming a world according to our figments. We "think" in our terms, i.e. if something seems to be, it had to 'evolve'. (I almost wrote: 'be created'!) We 'think' there is something. Do we have the capacity of going back * further* than *we can*? Certainly not, - YET - we draw conclusions fitting into our today's liking about such.
Thanks for your remarks on my - now obsolete - memory. John Mikes On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:24 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Is it so hard to understand a "word"? >> > > Yes, the word "nothing" keeps evolving. Until about a hundred years ago > "nothing" just meant a vacuum, space empty of any matter; then a few years > later the meaning was expanded to include lacking any energy too, then > still later it meant also not having space, and then it meant not even > having time. Something that is lacking matter energy time and space may not > be the purest form of nothing but it is, you must admit, a pretty pitiful > "thing", and if science can explain (and someday it very well may be able > to) how our world with all it's beautiful complexity came to be from such > modest beginnings then that would not be a bad days work, and to call such > activities "incredibly shallow" as some on this list have is just idiotic. > > > >> *>** N O T H I N G - *is not a set of anything, no potential >> > > Then the question "can something come from nothing?" has a obvious and > extremely dull answer. > > > I wrote once a little silly 'ode' about ontology. I started: >> "In the beginning there was Nothingness. >> And when Nothingness realised it's nothingness >> It turned into Somethingness >> > > Then your version of nothing had something, the potential to produce > something. I also note the use of the word "when", thus time, which is > something, existed in your "nothing" universe as well as potential. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
