# Re: Church Turing be dammed. (Probability Question)

```On 6/2/2012 1:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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On 01 Jun 2012, at 20:18, meekerdb wrote:

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```On 6/1/2012 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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You might be disturbed by the fact that in experience 2, the "original" remains the same person, so we don't count him as a new person, each time he steps in the box. This, in my opinion, illustrates again that we have to use RSSA instead of ASSA.
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Suppose the original goes to Mars and the copy stays behind. Then the probability the original went to Mars is 1.
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The question is asked before the guy enter in the box. This is a "step 5" case. The probability to feel to stay the original is 1/2.
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Everybody feels they are the original.
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"original" refer to the third person body. By definition it is the one being
copied.
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It doesn't really solve the identity problem to assume it is physical continuity. The "copy" also has physical continuity; and in any even slightly realistic case the 'original' will be destroyed in the process of extracting information, so there will really be two copies and no 'original'.
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The question before he enters the box is, "Will you find yourself on Mars?" To which he could reply, "What does 'you' refer to?"
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The question is about your future subjective feeling as seen from your future first person perspective.If you assume comp, you know in advance that you will feel entire and unique,
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No, I expect that two someones will feel entire and unique.

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either on Earth or on Mars, and you know that you cannot that in advance (or give me the algorithm).
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But all that assumes that 'you' and 'your' have meaningful referents. According to comp they are no more meaningful than referring to this number 2 and that number 2 and asking which number 2 counts the moons of Mars.
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Brent

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Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/

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