On 19 Jun 2012, at 17:11, meekerdb wrote:

On 6/19/2012 3:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Lawrence Krauss in his book "A Universe From Nothing" says that someday something close to that might actually be possible.

You mean? Deriving addition and multiplication from physics? That is impossible.

I'd say that depends on what you mean by 'derive'. Certainly the idea of addition and multiplication occurs to humans, and even to some animals, through evolutionary processes.

I meant derive by a logical deduction.

Like we can derive exponentiation from addition and multiplication, but it is a *very* difficult problem which took seventy years to be solved (mainly by Davis, Robinson, and Matiyasevich).

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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