On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:22:06PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012  Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
> > "Free will is the ability to do something stupid".
> >
> Well OK, but there sure as hell is a lot of free will going around these
> days, even a pair of dice can be pretty stupid, the smart thing for it to
> do would be to come up with a 7, but sometimes it comes up with a 2 even
> though that number is 6 times less likely. Only a idiot would pick 2 but
> sometimes the dice does. As Homer Simpson would say "Stupid dice".
>   > Roulette wheels do what they do, they never do anything different.
> >
> Sure they do, sometimes they produce a 12 and sometimes they produce a 21.
>   John K Clark

In both your examples, (dice and roulette wheels), they always do
something stupid (generate a random number). There is no choice in
their actions, so it is senseless to assign agency to them. There is
no optimisation of utility.

I think you may be deliberately taking my statement out of context.

Nevertheless, randomness is a key component of free will.


Prof Russell Standish                  Phone 0425 253119 (mobile)
Principal, High Performance Coders
Visiting Professor of Mathematics      hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
University of New South Wales          http://www.hpcoders.com.au

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