Hi Stephen P. King OK, I can understand that at least in princiople. I recall a statement by the famous Maharishi Yogi from way back:
"Knowledge is structured in consciousness." I had forgotten the "structured" part. To my mind at least, that explains why nature shows structure as well. A plausibility argument for the existence of God. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/24/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-24, 09:08:03 Subject: Re: On Causation with Mind and brain as apples and oranges On 9/24/2012 8:12 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King I have trouble conceiving an isomorphism (or anything comparative) between something that is there and something that is not. The something that is not there is not the absence of the thing that was, since it has no shape, no location, and cannot be found by a physical search. Hi Roger, I sympathize with you but must point out that one must be sure that one's idea and assumptions are correct. What I am proposing is that that Minds are, at the lowest level, a relational structure that can be well represented by Boolean Algebras. There is a duality between BAs and a type of topological space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone%27s_representation_theorem_for_Boolean_algebras "Each Boolean algebra B has an associated topological space, denoted here S(B), called its Stone space. The points in S(B) are theultrafilters on B, or equivalently the homomorphisms from B to the two-element Boolean algebra. The topology on S(B) is generated by a basis consisting of all sets of the form where b is an element of B. For any Boolean algebra B, S(B) is a compact totally disconnected Hausdorff space; such spaces are called Stone spaces (also profinite spaces). Conversely, given any topological space X, the collection of subsets of X that are clopen (both closed and open) is a Boolean algebra." This made complete sense to me once I realized what the Stone spaces "look like": a collection of particles in an emptiness (frozen in time). (A Cantor dust is a Stone space.) A nice illustration of the physical universe once we strip away of the detail. When we take change into account we get a succession of Stone spaces and BAs. The direction of the "arrows" of evolution of these are in opposite directions. BAs evolve by "looking backwards" to be sure no new proposition contradicts a previously accepted proposition. This property alone makes this hypothesis very appealing as it leads naturally to a reason why there are no "White Rabbits" (spontaneous events that present contradictory information, like a "White Rabbit" popping out of nowhere). -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.