On 11.10.2012 11:36 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 26.09.2012 20:35 meekerdb said the following:
An interesting paper which comports with my idea that "the problem
of consciousness" will be "solved" by engineering. Or John
Clark's point that consciousness is easy, intelligence is hard.
Consciousness in Cognitive Architectures A Principled Analysis of
RCS, Soar and ACT-R
I have started reading the paper. Thanks a lot for the link.
Another interesting quote.
p. 18 "Architectures that model human cognition. One of the mainstreams
in cognitive science is producing a complete theory of human mind
integrating all the partial models, for example about memory, vision or
learning, that have been produced. These architectures are based upon
data and experiments from psychology or neurophysiology, and tested upon
new breakthroughs. However, this architectures do not limit themselves
to be theoretical models, and have also practical application, i.e.
ACT-R is applied in software based learning systems: the Cognitive
Tutors for Mathematics, that are used in thousands of schools across the
United States. Examples of this type of cognitive architectures are
ACT-R and Atlantis."
I will repeat my point that I have made previously. If there are already
practical application of this type working, they would be very good
candidates to check what happens with consciousness. I could imagine two
1) Engineers have developed such an architecture without thinking about
consciousness. Now imagine that an empirical study however demonstrates
that consciousness is already there. This, in my view, would prove
epiphenomenalism of consciousness.
2) Engineers have developed such an architecture with taking
consciousness into account. Now imagine that an empirical study confirms
that consciousness is there. This, in my view, would be the solution of
I am curious what an answer I will find in the report in the end.
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