do you think "Lucy" had the same (thinking?) hardware as you have? are you
negating (human and other) development (I evade 'evolution') as e.g. the
famous cases of mutation? Is all that R&D a reshuffling of what WAS
Maybe my agnosticism dictates different potentials at work from your
Idon'tknowwhat position, but in my belief system there is - beyond our
existing world-model - an "infinite complexity" of unknowable
whoknowswhat-s infiltrating into our knowable inventory in ways adjusted to
our capabilities. THAT I cannot assign to an algorithmic machine.
Then again you write: "UNIVERSE" - a word usually applied to our part of a
'physical world' - not the Everything of which it may be part of. My
(assumed?) infinite complexity is not restricted to physical units of our
Accordingly I see some definitional discrepancy between our conclusions.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 8:08 AM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Stathis:
> > IMO you left out one difference in equating computer and human: the
> > programmed comp. cannot exceed its hardwre - given content while
> > (SOMEHOW???) a human mind receives additional information from parts
> > 'unknown' (see the steps forward in cultural history of the sciences?) -
> > accordingly a 'programmed' human may have resources beyond it's given
> > "hardware" content.
> > John M
> How can a human exceed his hardware? Everything he does must be due to
> the hardware plus input from the environment, same as the computer,
> same as everything else in the universe.
> Stathis Papaioannou
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