Hi meekerdb  

Love is a qualia and science cannot touch qualia.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 

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From: meekerdb  
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Time: 2012-11-03, 21:28:12 
Subject: Re: Weyl on mathematics vs. reality 

On 11/3/2012 6:47 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:  

: Is there something that I could know to be the case, and which is not 
expressed by a proposition that could be part of some scientific theory?" 

Yes . "I love my mother" is some knowledge that I know , and is not part of a 
scientific theory.  

But could it be is the question.  There could be a scientific theory that 
Alberto Corona loves his mother and you could know the theory. 

We know reality because we live in the reality, We do not approximate reality 
by theories. We directly know reality because we live within it.  Our  primary 
knowledge is intuitive, historic, direct.. It is _the_ reality.   

A theory is a second class of knowledge about a model that approximate reality, 
maybe upto a point of an isomorphism with some-part-of reality, but certainly, 
not an isomorphism that embraces the whole reality, because we could never know 
if we have modelized the entire reality, nether if this modelization is 

The legitimate usage of the models is  to refine this intuitive knowledge. But 
at the worst, a model can  negate our direct knowledge and try to create an 
alternative reality. In this case the theorist reclaim the model as the 
reality. Thus the theorist .reclaim a complete knowledge of reality. In this 
case the theorist is outside of science, even if it is  within the science 
industry, and becomes a sort of gnostic preacher 

Yes, a model that includes everything is impossible (and not even useful), but 
it might still be that each thing you know is part of some model.

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