Hi Stephen:

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Subject: Re: Life: origin, purpose, and qualia spectrum

On 11/7/2012 11:40 AM, Hal Ruhl wrote:
> Hi Stephen:
>
> pAP1 is #8 of the discussion initiating posts
>
> 8) Conclusion (2): Once life is present it will immediately punch as 
> many holes in as many Energy Hang-up Barriers as the details of the 
> particular life entity involved allows - this is how it realizes its 
> energy flow conduit character.  This is the "purpose" of life herein.  
> In other words life's purpose is to hasten the heat death of its host
universe.
>
> Hal
Dear Hal,

     Is "heat death" truly real or a necessary concept?

Well the term has been around for awhile but I have not seen a proposed end
state or series of end states of the universe in which the ability to run a
heat engine does not become zero or asymptotically approach it.

Hal  

>
>
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> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen P. King
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> Subject: Re: Life: origin, purpose, and qualia spectrum
>
> On 11/7/2012 9:38 AM, Hal Ruhl wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> This may show up more than once as a few others did.  In recent days 
>> I have had issues with my internet connection.  It has been 16 hours 
>> since I sent this the second time. This time I tried  sending it 
>> again and then again as plain text.  Very sorry if my troubles cause 
>> some
> clutter.
>> At this time I would like to go a bit further re item iii:
>>
>> iii) Species survival: Life on this planet is in the midst of an 
>> extinction event [not a new idea] that can't be stopped because pAP1 
>> would be the only priority for life.  We may not be extinguished as a 
>> species but we can't exclude ourselves from the extinction because of
>> pAP1 [fixed typo].  There have been a number of extinction events.
>> However, evolution has used some of these to produce new life 
>> entities with greater energy hang-up barrier busting ability than the 
>> extinguished ones - new life entities such as ourselves from the K-Pg
> event.
>> iiia) Current Economic Conditions:  The news in this area has been 
>> rather bad for some time.  The most frequently offered solution has 
>> been that national economies and thus the world economy must grow 
>> real GDP.  In fact grow it exponentially or even super exponentially.
>> Since the planet has only a finite supply of energy - see prior posts 
>> under #2 for energy types - a new trick has to be learned.  However, 
>> the offered solution is in compliance with pAP1.  Thus if pAP1 is 
>> correct then no other solution [new trick] can be offered.  In this 
>> case weep for the children.  I hope someone can falsify pAP1 and 
>> anything
> near it.
>>
>> Hal
>>
> Dear Hal,
>
>       Could you restate pAP1?
>
>
>


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Onward!

Stephen


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