On 12 Nov 2012, at 13:29, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Leibniz thought that everything needs a sufficient reason to
exist as it does. Thus all of the parts of the universe have
a sufficient reason to be (as they are). I don't know how to
explain that by anything other than the the "God" hypothesis.
It is always dangerous (for the mental sanity) to invoke "God" in an
explanation. It is an easy evacuation of the problem.
But I can relate with this idea, though.
With comp, in fine, we need also a "God hypothesis", which seems to be
innocent: as it is the "arithmetical truth hypothesis". It needs
studies in logic to understand that such an hypothesis is quite
strong, and share many religious principle with God, as we can only
scratch a tiny part of arithmetical truth, and don't know really what
it is. We can even not give it a name. Like "God", "arithmetical
truth" is only a pointer to something which, assuming comp,
intrinsically transcends us.
Note also that divine intellect (the complete quantified G*) is far
more complex than Arithmetic Truth. Even with Arithmetical truth as
oracle, the divine intellect (the arithmetical noùs) is undecidable.
So the theology of the universal machine is even beyond "God". This is
counter-intuitive and explains some difficulties and quasi divergence
between Plato and Plotinus. Comp seems to side with Plotinus on this.
God is simpler than its "creation/emanation", making it losing
omnipotence and omniscience.
Bruno
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/12/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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On 11/10/2012 6:01 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
There's no mystery. That's presumably how a machine packed
them during manufacture.
Hi Roger,
The order of the crackers has a cause, some physical process lead
to the order. When we are considering ontological models and theories
and using ideas that depend on epistemological knowledge, it is easy
to
fall into regress. I have found that regress can be controlled and
there
is even a nice mathematical theory that uses regressive sets - sets
that
have no least member and sets that have themselves as a member, but
any
time that we claim a 'cut off' there has to be sufficient reasons
for it.
er Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/10/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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On 11/9/2012 11:24 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Get a box of crackers with the crackers all lined perfectly up
inside.
No explanation at all is given as to how the cracker got to be
"perfectly lined up". ... Right.
That's Platonia.
Now invert the box and let the crackers fall, scattering on the
floor and some even breaking. That's our contingent world.
Nobody knows why, but that's the way time works.
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