# Re: Whoopie ! The natural INTEGERS are indeed monads

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On 10 Dec 2012, at 20:25, John Mikes wrote:```
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Bruno, I wonder if you know German proverbs: "Wirf die Katz' wie du willst, sie faellt auf die FÅ±sse (throw the cat as you wish, she falls onto her feet).
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We have it in french. In fact cat really falls onto their feet :)

Bruno

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```J

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
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On 09 Dec 2012, at 22:10, John Mikes wrote:

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OOps#2: I would have to be a super-Gauss to explain the 12/17ary system. The last time I really studied math-rules was in 1948, preparing for my Ph.D. exam, - since then I only forget.
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12/17 is surely a value, hopefully applicable in erecting a math- system, like with "2" the binary, or with "10" the decimal. The rest is application
```(ha ha). Ask the super-duper universal computer of yours.
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He is still very dumb, you know. He has not some much practice in real life. I am already happy he can understand cut, copy, and send, unlike some participants :)
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Sorry for erring into such un-serious and un-scientific corners.
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It was fun, no problem. It would still be interesting to see if your 12/17 ary system makes your numbers verify my axioms:
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x + 0 = x
x + (y + 1) = (x + y) + 1

x *0 = 0
x*(y + 1) = x*y + x

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If that is the case, we can use your numbers, and it will change noting in the "TOE", we will get the same consciousness and the same physics.
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Have a good Christmas time
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Happy Christmas to you too John.

Bruno

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