On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:32:12 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >>> If free will were, after all, an illusion, then there would really be >>> not much of an advantage in discerning intention to cause harm from a >>> simple propensity to cause harm. >>> >> >> Free will is an illusion only if you define it in a logically impossible >> way, neither determined nor random. >> > > Think of it this way. Determined and random are the two unintentional > vectors which oppose the single intentional vector. Why is that so hard to > conceptualize? You are using it right now to do the conceptualizing... > The dichotomy is intentional/unintentional, not intentional/determined-or-random. It could be intentional and determined, intentional and random, unintentional and determined or unintentional and random. > This is why our brains don't give a rat's ass whether physical causes are > ultimately random or determined, but discerning whether physical causes are > intentional or unintentional us a matter of *the highest possible > importance*. > Yes, that's what I have been saying. We care about whether something is intentional or unintentional, and unless we are engaged in discussions such as this we don't even consider whether the underlying physics is determined or random. > Can you see what I mean? Because I understand what you mean completely and > see clearly that you have one eye shut and one hand tied behind your back. > > Craig > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/gtq8PwQyva4J. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
