On 25 Dec 2012, at 04:10, Stephen P. King wrote:

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On 12/24/2012 7:27 PM, meekerdb wrote:On 12/24/2012 3:43 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:On 12/24/2012 3:22 PM, meekerdb wrote:On 12/24/2012 11:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:Dear Roger,Flies can unify their vision because the distance betweentheir individual eyes is small and the number is finite. One canstill manage to get a mutually commuting set of observations inthese conditions. When one has an arbitrarily large distancebetween a pair of "eyes" and the number of them is infinite thenit is impossible to have a mutually commuting set ofobservations. This is the problem of omniscience.I have two eyes and no problem unifying them. Vision takes placein the brain, not the eyes.Brent --Hi Brent, I think you missed the point I was trying to make.Apparently. You are basing this impossibility on a literalinfinity - not just "very very many"? In that case I'd agreebecause the literal infinity is itself impossible.Brent --Pfft, really? Oh my, you are hard up to save an obviously falseidea! If the infinity is merely potential, the situation is worse!Think about it, how many different 1p are *possible*? Many, atleast! I submit to you that the number must be infinite. This wouldbe equivalent to an infinite number of propositions.

`The number of human 1p is infinite if you let the human skull growing`

`arbitrarily.`

It should be obvious that to find a SAT solution to such isimpossible for any classical system.

`SAT is Sigma_0. SAT is decidable. We can find all the SAT solutions,`

`if patient enough. No doubt that it can take some time to see if a`

`classical propositional formula with 10^1000 propositional variables`

`is a tautology. P = NP would not necessarily help, because the`

`polynomial bounding complexity can be quite growing if it has big`

`coefficient.`

`For biology and theology the interesting things happens on the border`

`of the Sigma_1 complete structures.`

`Only bankers and engineers really need to talk the Sigma_0, and`

`subtractability issues. By comp, we will have to derive why, from the`

`geometry and topology of the border of the Sigma_1, seen in 1p. UDA`

`and AUDA illustrates that the border get his geometry and topology`

`from self-reference, starting from sigma_1 sentences (which represent`

`in arithmetic the UD states).`

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